hypercrites

Excuse me, this board is dead, I'm not checking it every five minutes.  Why have you suddenly decided to denounce me?

As for the dead babies, there's no question that dead is dead and a grieving parent is a grieving parent.  I agree completely on that, and if you take a totally pacifist anti-war position then I guess there is no difference.  Most people, however, do not view the war in Afghanistan as purposeless violence.  Do you believe in a right of self-defense on either an individual or a national level?