Author Topic: Issa Vows To Continue Anti-Holder Witchhunt Despite Report Exonerating The AG  (Read 40 times)

Offline kentay

  • Hypercritter
  • Hyper Varmint
  • *********
  • Posts: 844
Issa Vows To Continue Anti-Holder Witchhunt Despite Report Exonerating The Attorney General
Republican Campaign Mantra:
We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

Share on Bluesky Share on Facebook


Offline Woody

  • Hypercritter
  • Imperial Varmint
  • *********
  • Posts: 1184
  • Location: Anywhere
A couple of flaws with this report.  The report also said the WH blocked the investigation.  Additionally this is not the same program that began under bush.
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

Offline kentay

  • Hypercritter
  • Hyper Varmint
  • *********
  • Posts: 844
A couple of flaws with this report.  The report also said the WH blocked the investigation.  Additionally this is not the same program that began under bush.


And your proof is ?    kentay
Republican Campaign Mantra:
We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

Offline Woody

  • Hypercritter
  • Imperial Varmint
  • *********
  • Posts: 1184
  • Location: Anywhere
A couple of flaws with this report.  The report also said the WH blocked the investigation.  Additionally this is not the same program that began under bush.


And your proof is ?    kentay






CNN, LA TIMES, ABC, ETC.   you should read more than thinkprogress.


http://abcnews.go.com/politics/t/blogEntry?id=17290752


[/size]http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/19/us/us-fast-furious-report/index.html


[/size]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fast-furious-20120921,0,4448541.story
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

Offline Woody

  • Hypercritter
  • Imperial Varmint
  • *********
  • Posts: 1184
  • Location: Anywhere
And the major differences in the Obama program and the bush program.


1.  The bush program physically tracked weapons from purchaser to buyer.  The Obama program did not.


2.  The bush program was done with the cooperation of the Mexican authorities.  The Obama program kept the Mexican authorities in the dark.


3.  The bush program ENDED in 2007.  The Obama program did start until nov of 2009.


Scandal: The president's spokesman confuses a "controlled delivery" operation known as Wide Receiver with the quite different Fast and Furious and couldn't even remember the name of the Border Patrol agent killed by it.
When a Border Patrol agent is murdered in the service of his country as a result of a program run by his own government, one would think the White House press secretary would know his name. Jay Carney, his name was Brian Terry.
During a contentious press conference where even the White House press corps seemed to have had enough with the administration's tap dancing about an operation that began on its watch and got two federal agents killed, ABC's Jake Tapper had to feed a stumbling Carney the name of the Border Patrol agent killed by it.
To refresh Mr. Carney's memory, and perhaps that of the president, who never called the family, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in December 2010 at the hands of an illegal immigrant working for the Sinaloa Cartel just 10 miles from the Mexico border near Nogales, Ariz. Two AK-47 assault rifles found at the site of the Terry shooting were traced back to a straw buyer allowed to smuggle guns into Mexico with the blessing of the ATF and Eric Holder's Department of Justice.
In addition to Agent Terry, Immigration Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata was also killed in a separate incident by a weapon allowed to "walk" into Mexico from the U.S. as part of the administration's third-rate alleged attempt to track and catch gun traffickers. Let us not forget the hundreds of Mexican nationals who have been killed by Fast and Furious weapons.
Like the administration he serves, Carney was perhaps too focused on the party line that gun-walking into Mexico was something begun under President George W. Bush and Fast and Furious was merely an extension of this policy.
Dubbed "Operation Wide Receiver," the Bush-era operation was run out of Tucson between 2006 and 2007, ending before Bush left office and before Fast and Furious began under Obama in 2009. The differences between it and Fast and Furious are vast, starting with the fact that Wide Receiver produced no dead bodies.


Subscribe to the IBD Editorials PodcastOperation Wide Receiver used the common law enforcement tactic of "controlled delivery" in which the illegal sales of weapons were allowed to take place, the movements of the weapons were closely monitored and the end purchasers were then apprehended. It involved gun-tracing, not gun-walking.
Under the "controlled delivery" of Wide Receiver, agents didn't just write down the serial numbers and let the guns disappear as in Fast and Furious. They closely and physically followed the guns from American dealers to straw purchasers to Mexican buyers.
Most importantly, Wide Receiver was run in close cooperation with Mexican authorities, who were kept in the dark on Fast and Furious.
In contrast ATF agents involved in Fast and Furious have testified that they were ordered not to track the weapons and in cases where interdiction was possible they were ordered to stand down and actually watch the weapons walk.
ATF Special Agent John Dodson has testified how in one instance guns were sold to known illegal buyers who took them to a stash house. Against orders from his superiors, Dodson kept the stash house under surveillance and when a vehicle showed up to transfer the weapons to their ultimate destination, he called for an interdiction team to move in, seize the weapons and arrest the traffickers. His superiors refused, and the guns disappeared without surveillance.
They may blame President Bush and Wide Receiver, but on Fast and Furious President Obama and his press secretary have clearly dropped the ball
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/062212-615871-fast-and-furious-different-than-wide-receiver.htm?p=full[/size].[/color]







A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.