Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798

[kentay]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/01/17/congress-passes-socialized-medicine-and-mandates-health-insurance-in-1798/

[RWE]

The law only applied to seamen working aboard any "ship or vessel of the United States arriving from a foreign port into any port of the United States".  In other words it only applied to those engaged in foreign commerce. One of the enumerated powers of the US government is "to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, ..." I guess the 5th Congress and President Adams understood the 10th Amendment after all.

[kentay]

The law only applied to seamen working aboard any "ship or vessel of the United States arriving from a foreign port into any port of the United States".  In other words it only applied to those engaged in foreign commerce. One of the enumerated powers of the US government is "to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, ..." I guess the 5th Congress and President Adams understood the 10th Amendment after all.

RWE, I have but one question for you did we have Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance in 1798  or not started by our forefathers? kentay

[kentay]

The law only applied to seamen working aboard any "ship or vessel of the United States arriving from a foreign port into any port of the United States".  In other words it only applied to those engaged in foreign commerce. One of the enumerated powers of the US government is "to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, ..." I guess the 5th Congress and President Adams understood the 10th Amendment after all.

RWE, I have but one question for you did we have Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance in 1798  or not started by our forefathers? kentay

[RWE]

-----The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage.
State of Florida, et al. vs. HHS
It turns out, the Founding Fathers would beg to disagree.-----

The article posted is based on a false premise. There is no example of the founding fathers applying a healthcare mandate to all citizens. We never had socialized Medicine under this act.

[clistensprechen]

The law only applied to seamen working aboard any "ship or vessel of the United States arriving from a foreign port into any port of the United States".  In other words it only applied to those engaged in foreign commerce. One of the enumerated powers of the US government is "to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, ..." I guess the 5th Congress and President Adams understood the 10th Amendment after all.

It didn't exclude domestic fishermen type seamen, did it. Try again.

Infectious germs and viruses are no respecter of persons and you'd have only domestic sailors spreading STDs to every U.S. citizen at large? Your intention is to decimate U.S. population the way Europeans decimated Indians? Too cute by half. Communicable diseases will always keep the most individualistic conservative's leg chained to necessary socialism, Typhoid Mary.

[RWE]

It didn't exclude domestic fishermen type seamen, did it. Try again.

It excluded them from the mandate of paying for it or the penalty tax of not paying for it. Try again

Infectious germs and viruses are no respecter of persons and you'd have only domestic sailors spreading STDs to every U.S. citizen at large?

I'd have??? We're talking about a law from over 200 years ago. And seeing as how there was no cure for STDs in 1798 I don't see how anything short of shooting every sailor coming off the boat could stop the spread of STDs. And "every U.S. citizen at large"???you're assuming that every citizen was as skanky as today's democrats.

Your intention is to decimate U.S. population the way Europeans decimated Indians? Too cute by half. Communicable diseases will always keep the most individualistic conservative's leg chained to necessary socialism, Typhoid Mary.

Huh? My intention was to refute the claim that the founding fathers thought the constitution authorized Socialized medicine at the federal level.

[clistensprechen]

It didn't exclude domestic fishermen type seamen, did it. Try again.

It excluded them from the mandate of paying for it or the penalty tax of not paying for it. Try again

Ohhhhhh, of course of course of course.

Infectious germs and viruses are no respecter of persons and you'd have only domestic sailors spreading STDs to every U.S. citizen at large?

I'd have??? We're talking about a law from over 200 years ago. And seeing as how there was no cure for STDs in 1798 I don't see how anything short of shooting every sailor coming off the boat could stop the spread of STDs. And "every U.S. citizen at large"???you're assuming that every citizen was as skanky as today's democrats.

None of today's skanky preachers caught with their pants down were Democrats. lol. The point I was making is that disease is what's socialist, and you can't enlist germs to join your party.

Your intention is to decimate U.S. population the way Europeans decimated Indians? Too cute by half. Communicable diseases will always keep the most individualistic conservative's leg chained to necessary socialism, Typhoid Mary.

Huh? My intention was to refute the claim that the founding fathers thought the constitution authorized Socialized medicine at the federal level.

The founding fathers considered the welfare of the nation in the Constitution, and whereas germs are socialists, socialized medicine is called for to ensure the nation's welfare. Did ya get it this time?

[RWE]

and whereas germs are socialists,

I'm sure the founding fathers would approve of using strong disinfectants to rid the nation of these socialists.

[clistensprechen]

and whereas germs are socialists,

I'm sure the founding fathers would approve of using strong disinfectants to rid the nation of these socialists.

Hospitals used to until recently, and now we've got a socialist invasion of the hospitals--now rated as the top place to get infections. Hospitals: hotbeds of socialism.  :hairfire: