Frank Analytic Discussion about Entitlement Programs

[Woody]

I'm not discussing this with Google, I'm discussing this with you and other Hypercritters. You don't know what version passed the House, do you.

The one I linked to.  What issues do you have with it?

You're evading the point. I'm asking for the differences between the original and what passed in the House.

Enlighten us.

I asked you first. Proceed, please.

Nevermind--Sununu and Romney himself have a problem with the Ryan Plan. It's getting scrapped, and what we're getting is the Romney Plan.

It is your point.

It is my question. **** learn English.

Prove your own **** points.

**** answer my question.

This is a constant problem with you.

Asking questions, particularly "why", will always be a problem with me. Get used to it.  And **** get used to answering questions.

You raise a point and then you expect us to do your work.

What I have here is a barn door open for me to call YOU a liar, as you have so often done with me without basis for doing so.  You have handed me a legitimate basis for doing so. Consider it done.

[clistensprechen]

I asked a question anybody but you can answer, and you're throwing a profanity tantrum because you can't answer the question. 

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[kentay]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 


77 Years After It Became Law, Social Security Keeps 20 Million Americans Out Of Poverty

[Woody]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 


77 Years After It Became Law, Social Security Keeps 20 Million Americans Out Of Poverty

To questions:


1.  Is it your contention that the following report from your favorites source is lying when is reports that the CBO says SS will run out of money in 2038?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/05/289201/cbo-social-security-trust-fund-solvent-through-2039/


2.  Can you post a specific plan that is currently on the table that will either end SS, cut benefits, or will negatively impact the future of the plan for the elderly, disabled, or young Americans?

[wbcoleman]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 

But the early participants in Ponzi schemes CAN expect to be big winners, right?  It's the later entrants who are left holding the bag.

[kentay]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 

But the early participants in Ponzi schemes CAN expect to be big winners, right?  It's the later entrants who are left holding the bag.

77 years and not lost a penny and has helped millions, that is some record. I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money and running,  before declaring bankruptcy. Isn't that what Romney and  Bain Capital did? I would be worried if it was in Private hands, cause you just can't trust them and the past 80 years prove it.   kentay

[wbcoleman]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 

But the early participants in Ponzi schemes CAN expect to be big winners, right?  It's the later entrants who are left holding the bag.

77 years and not lost a penny and has helped millions, that is some record. I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money and running,  before declaring bankruptcy. Isn't that what Romney and  Bain Capital did? I would be worried if it was in Private hands, cause you just can't trust them and the past 80 years prove it.   kentay

How many times do you intend to repeat that absurd line.  There are a shitload of companies that have been around a lot longer than Social Security and which did a lot more than simply tax cash out of childrens' pockets and transfer it to their parents and grandparents.

[wbcoleman]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 

But the early participants in Ponzi schemes CAN expect to be big winners, right?  It's the later entrants who are left holding the bag.

77 years and not lost a penny and has helped millions, that is some record. I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money and running,  before declaring bankruptcy. Isn't that what Romney and  Bain Capital did? I would be worried if it was in Private hands, cause you just can't trust them and the past 80 years prove it.   kentay

How many times do you intend to repeat that absurd line?  [A whole bunch, I'd wager!]  There are a shitload of companies that have been around a lot longer than Social Security and which did a lot more than simply tax cash out of childrens' pockets and transfer it to their parents and grandparents.

[Woody]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 


77 Years After It Became Law, Social Security Keeps 20 Million Americans Out Of Poverty

To questions:


1.  Is it your contention that the following report from your favorites source is lying when is reports that the CBO says SS will run out of money in 2038?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/05/289201/cbo-social-security-trust-fund-solvent-through-2039/


2.  Can you post a specific plan that is currently on the table that will either end SS, cut benefits, or will negatively impact the future of the plan for the elderly, disabled, or young Americans?

Kentay, will you even attempt to answer those questions?  Is it your contention that the CBO is lying and that you know better?

[wbcoleman]

Kentay, will you even attempt to answer those questions?  Is it your contention that the CBO is lying and that you know better?

Here's a prediction:  kentay will do no such thing.  Instead, he'll start three brand-new agitprop threads!

[Woody]

Kentay, will you even attempt to answer those questions?  Is it your contention that the CBO is lying and that you know better?

Here's a prediction:  kentay will do no such thing.  Instead, he'll start three brand-new agitprop threads!

If I stipulate that I am an evil conservative bastard who will never be as faithful a Christian as kentay who is only interested in my own self interest and greed can we skip the threads and posts?

[wbcoleman]

Kentay, will you even attempt to answer those questions?  Is it your contention that the CBO is lying and that you know better?

Here's a prediction:  kentay will do no such thing.  Instead, he'll start three brand-new agitprop threads!

If I stipulate that I am an evil conservative bastard who will never be as faithful a Christian as kentay who is only interested in my own self interest and greed can we skip the threads and posts?

If only!   :band:

[clistensprechen]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 

But the early participants in Ponzi schemes CAN expect to be big winners, right?  It's the later entrants who are left holding the bag.

Not in Bernie Madoff's case. He went to jail. But he was the only ponzi schemer who went to jail because he was the only ponzi schemer who robbed The 1%.

[wbcoleman]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 

But the early participants in Ponzi schemes CAN expect to be big winners, right?  It's the later entrants who are left holding the bag.

Not in Bernie Madoff's case. He went to jail. But he was the only ponzi schemer who went to jail because he was the only ponzi schemer who robbed The 1%.

What are you babbling about?  Bernie Madoff's case is a perfect example.  The people who had been with him from the outset did fine, even the ones who didn't completely cash out.  The Madoff trustee, Irving Picard, has recovered about nine BILLION dollars from them!!!

[clistensprechen]

I know of no business that has that kind of record for length of time in business and number of people helped. When business start to fail they usually end up by taking the money before declaring bankruptcy. kentay 

But the early participants in Ponzi schemes CAN expect to be big winners, right?  It's the later entrants who are left holding the bag.

Not in Bernie Madoff's case. He went to jail. But he was the only ponzi schemer who went to jail because he was the only ponzi schemer who robbed The 1%.

What are you babbling about?  Bernie Madoff's case is a perfect example.  The people who had been with him from the outset did fine, even the ones who didn't completely cash out.  The Madoff trustee, Irving Picard, has recovered about nine BILLION dollars from them!!!

Ummm, if Picard recovered that much money from those who did well, they're not really doing so well.