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Offline Woody

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Re: Obamacare guts Medicare
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2012, 03:57:44 pm »
Here is a more balanced breakdown of the claims. 

http://factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/
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Re: Obamacare guts Medicare
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2012, 06:23:54 pm »
I'd rather have the choice of insurance company bureaucrats to deal with as opposed to government bureaucrats.

Agreed.  And better yet, no third party would be involved.  You would buy health care like you buy a TV set.  You would walk through the door and pay cash.  If you couldn't afford it you would take out a loan.  If you had an expensive illness or accident your insurance would kick-in because it covered catastrophic events, not routine treatments.
You've hit on why we've had decades of employer-provided insurance in the first place: buying coverage in bulk used to be cheaper than each person buying individual unassociated accounts.  Employer-provided health benefits remains the best way a person earns his/her coverage, while THE best and THE cheapest way would be single-payer.

No, the reason we've had decades of employer-provided health insurance is that such benefits weren't limited by WWII wage-and-price controls, and after the war Congress cemented the practice by enacting an income tax exemption for them.
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Re: Obamacare guts Medicare
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2012, 07:39:57 am »

 Pema Levy - 12:16 PM EDT, Monday September 3, 2012

Vice President Joe Biden went on offense over Medicare at a Labor Day rally in Detroit Monday, arguing that President Obama was working to save Medicare while Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan want to turn it into a voucher program.
 
"I've sent my whole adult life as a senator and vice president fighting against their attempts to diminish Medicare," Biden said, stressing that this is a serious issue.
 
"We're for Medicare, they're for 'vouchercare.'"

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/biden-theyre-for-vouchercare?ref=fpb
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