Is this wrong

[clistensprechen]

kentay nailed it. But kentay also nailed my main problem with Obamacare. What needs to happen is justice be done to the medical extortionists who demand not only your money but your children's money as well because they hold your life in their hands.

That ****'s just gotta stop.

Medical billing is fakery forced by the government's destruction of the price mechanism in health care.

That's not even remotely or fractionally true.

It is totally true.  Do you actually believe that medical prices are the result of some private market mechanism??

The price of the medical is over rated.  I had to take a three mile ambulance ride.  I did not need oxygen or anything like that.  You know, that was the most expensive three mile trip I ever took.  I flew to my moms house cheaper and that was 2000 miles.

It's outrageous what they charge you with.

For a room they charged $399.00.  For a **** room?

Where do you suppose these absurd prices come from?  Do insurance companies actually pay them?  We know the government doesn't.

This falls under the category of a free market system's philosophy of charging what the market will bear.

There is no "free market" pricing system in the health market.  You are simply spitting out slogans.

Wrong. It's a rigged market but not because government did any of the rigging.

[Don Houston]

Who cares where they come from?  The fact is that they are to high

They are fake.  They have no economic basis.  They are one of the main reasons that the health care system is so screwed up, and they help explian why Obamacare would simply make things worse.

OK I am not sure how universal health care would be worse than people not having health care.  I am willing to listen if you care to explain

Are we debating "universal health care" or are we debating "Obamacare"?

Are they not the same thing?  Obamacare=Affordalble Health Care Act?

[wbcoleman]

Wrong. It's a rigged market but not because government did any of the rigging.

Do you really want to discuss this?  So far you're simply spitting out ideological slogans.

[wbcoleman]

Who cares where they come from?  The fact is that they are to high

They are fake.  They have no economic basis.  They are one of the main reasons that the health care system is so screwed up, and they help explian why Obamacare would simply make things worse.

OK I am not sure how universal health care would be worse than people not having health care.  I am willing to listen if you care to explain

Are we debating "universal health care" or are we debating "Obamacare"?

Are they not the same thing?  Obamacare=Affordalble Health Care Act?

FUNNY!!!   :woot:

[clistensprechen]

wbc, if you had a clue as to what the difference is, you would have kindly explained, item by item, what the difference is.

You don't know either, do you.  :dunno:

[wbcoleman]

wbc, if you had a clue as to what the difference is, you would have kindly explained, item by item, what the difference is.

You don't know either, do you.  :dunno:

Oh, please!  "Universal health care" is a general concept while "Obamacare" is an [alleged] particular attempt to implement the concept.  The actuality of the Obamacare scheme legislates 2,700+ pages worth of changes, some of which have nothing to do with the universality of insurance coverage and which, in the aggregate, fail to accomplish universality.  So you can't legitimately argue that, if you favor universal coverage, then you must also support this particular scheme.

C'mon, this isn't rocket science.

[clistensprechen]

If it's not rocket science, what took ya so long explaining it??

[wbcoleman]

If it's not rocket science, what took ya so long explaining it??

Too busy laughing!