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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2012, 10:03:52 pm »
O is now forced to directly attack the Ryan Plan... Big Time.
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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2012, 10:34:31 pm »
I dunno, he didn't attack Romneycare. He knows darn well when he puts his own name on it, the GOP will kill the Ryan Plan themselves. It's not unheard of.

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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2012, 02:09:01 am »
O is now forced to directly attack the Ryan Plan... Big Time.


That is something I would hope will happen but the Obama has pretty much stuck with deception and thuggery to this point.  Why change now?  People are buying into his lies. 
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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2012, 08:16:49 am »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2012, 09:19:35 am »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

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How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2012, 02:24:37 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

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How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.

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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2012, 02:58:50 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

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How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.

Re Medicare, I understand that what you say is the conventional wisdom.  It may be right; however, I really doubt that I am the only senior or soon-to-be-senior who worries about Medicare running out of money while I'm still alive.  We know that part of the financing for Obamacare was to steal from Medicare.  Are older voters really stupid enough to fall for O's platitudes which guarantee the eventual collapse of the scheme?  We'll see!

Re women, are you seriously unaware that somewhere between 35-50% of women are opposed to abortion?
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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 04:23:56 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

 :cheers:

How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.


Any senior currently on Medicare will not be affected and anyone entering the system prior to 2023 will not be affected.


What exactly are these anti women's health policies?  Who pays for it?
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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2012, 04:30:03 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

 :cheers:

How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.

Any senior currently on Medicare will not be affected and anyone entering the system prior to 2023 will not be affected.

What exactly are these anti women's health policies?  Who pays for it?

We're all affected if the scheme goes broke, which is a lead-pipe certainty.

As for "women's health policies", the liberal assumption is that all women are pro-abortion and that abortion is the centerpiece of women's health.
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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2012, 04:33:45 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

 :cheers:

How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.

Any senior currently on Medicare will not be affected and anyone entering the system prior to 2023 will not be affected.

What exactly are these anti women's health policies?  Who pays for it?

We're all affected if the scheme goes broke, which is a lead-pipe certainty.

As for "women's health policies", the liberal assumption is that all women are pro-abortion and that abortion is the centerpiece of women's health.


What is funny is a large portion of the plan is similar to the ACA insurance exchanges.  Are the dems saying that is bad?

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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2012, 06:08:52 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

 :cheers:

How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.

Re Medicare, I understand that what you say is the conventional wisdom.  It may be right; however, I really doubt that I am the only senior or soon-to-be-senior who worries about Medicare running out of money while I'm still alive.  We know that part of the financing for Obamacare was to steal from Medicare.  Are older voters really stupid enough to fall for O's platitudes which guarantee the eventual collapse of the scheme?  We'll see!

Re women, are you seriously unaware that somewhere between 35-50% of women are opposed to abortion?
I am aware that the 35% end of that spectrum of numbers is an overstatement, and you're just skating over the birth control issue, which puts the kibosh on the Ryan plan all by itself.

The Ryan Plan doesn't mess with current or soon-to-be seniors, so your personal situation is a non-issue as well. And nobody steals from Medicare except fraudulent medics, hospitals and nursing homes.

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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2012, 06:10:45 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

 :cheers:

How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.


Any senior currently on Medicare will not be affected and anyone entering the system prior to 2023 will not be affected.
Like I just said.

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What exactly are these anti women's health policies?  Who pays for it?

Birth control, abortion parts, and it's all at the expense of women.

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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2012, 06:25:05 pm »
What the pick of Ryan does is helps Romney with Conservatives and the Tea Party. While it does hurt with women and seniors, I am guessing it only is going to hurt in states Romney was going to lose anyway.

Welcome, glenfs!

 :cheers: 

How does choosing Ryan "hurt with seniors and women"?  It hurts with liberals, but they're not part of the target audience.
Oh, I can answer that question easily: seniors don't like what Ryan plans to do with Medicare, and Ryan's anti-women's health especially when it comes to abortion and birth control, as he's fully intending to force his religion on every woman in the nation with his plan.


Any senior currently on Medicare will not be affected and anyone entering the system prior to 2023 will not be affected.
Like I just said.

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What exactly are these anti women's health policies?  Who pays for it?

Birth control, abortion parts, and it's all at the expense of women.


No, it goes back to how it was on July 31st.   


Next, if healthcare exchanges are bad for seniors how can they be good for the entire country?



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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2012, 07:21:14 pm »
Since I didn't even infer any such a thing and only you brought it up, how about you explain what you mean.

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Re: It's Official: Ryan = Veep
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2012, 07:27:33 pm »
Since I didn't even infer any such a thing and only you brought it up, how about you explain what you mean.


Actually, my bad. 


But I already did explain it.  One of the key provisions is HC exchanges for seniors similar to the ACA. How is that bad for seniors in 2023? 

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