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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!




http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX
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A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!




http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?





A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?

The difference between us is that we believe the new "proposal" expire as soon as the election is over!
Flip-flop politics and etch-a-sketch promises.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?

The difference between us is that we believe the new "proposal" expire as soon as the election is over!
Flip-flop politics and etch-a-sketch promises.


This is how the Obamabots stifle debate.


I understand though.  They did vote for Obama and they did suffer such broken promises.  But Sibelius thinks it is a serious plan.

A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?

The difference between us is that we believe the new "proposal" expire as soon as the election is over!
Flip-flop politics and etch-a-sketch promises.


This is how the Obamabots stifle debate.


I understand though.  They did vote for Obama and they did suffer such broken promises.  But Sibelius thinks it is a serious plan.

If you think our problems will go away while we have a two party system owned by the likes of Brothers Kooch I have an orange groove in Antarctica I'd like bids on.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?

The difference between us is that we believe the new "proposal" expire as soon as the election is over!
Flip-flop politics and etch-a-sketch promises.


This is how the Obamabots stifle debate.


I understand though.  They did vote for Obama and they did suffer such broken promises.  But Sibelius thinks it is a serious plan.

If you think our problems will go away while we have a two party system owned by the likes of Brothers Kooch I have an orange groove in Antarctica I'd like bids on.


I will stipulate that the left feels the Koch brothers are evil incarnate.  I will also stipulate that the obamabots think I personally am an evil self bastard who wants to steal grannies pension check.


With those stipulations is sebilius right or wrong and have done anything to protest her comments? 



A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?

The difference between us is that we believe the new "proposal" expire as soon as the election is over!
Flip-flop politics and etch-a-sketch promises.


This is how the Obamabots stifle debate.


I understand though.  They did vote for Obama and they did suffer such broken promises.  But Sibelius thinks it is a serious plan.

If you think our problems will go away while we have a two party system owned by the likes of Brothers Kooch I have an orange groove in Antarctica I'd like bids on.


I will stipulate that the left feels the Koch brothers are evil incarnate.  I will also stipulate that the obamabots think I personally am an evil self bastard who wants to steal grannies pension check.


With those stipulations is sebilius right or wrong and have done anything to protest her comments?

I think the proposal may be workable but any proposal which involves insurance companies is a waste the country can not afford.
When it comes to the Kooch and money in politics they are making an investment but as long as we have money in politics the public will not truly be represented in the government.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?

The difference between us is that we believe the new "proposal" expire as soon as the election is over!
Flip-flop politics and etch-a-sketch promises.


This is how the Obamabots stifle debate.


I understand though.  They did vote for Obama and they did suffer such broken promises.  But Sibelius thinks it is a serious plan.

If you think our problems will go away while we have a two party system owned by the likes of Brothers Kooch I have an orange groove in Antarctica I'd like bids on.


I will stipulate that the left feels the Koch brothers are evil incarnate.  I will also stipulate that the obamabots think I personally am an evil self bastard who wants to steal grannies pension check.


With those stipulations is sebilius right or wrong and have done anything to protest her comments?

I think the proposal may be workable but any proposal which involves insurance companies is a waste the country can not afford.
When it comes to the Kooch and money in politics they are making an investment but as long as we have money in politics the public will not truly be represented in the government.


This ain't about the koch brothers.

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I think the proposal may be workable but any proposal which involves insurance companies is a waste the country can not afford.


Of course you are against the ACA ( Obamacare).  You are of course supporting complete repeal.




A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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With one interview the HHS Sec. Undercutes kentaclara's arguments.  LOL!


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/



Unfunded liabilities are benefits promised by the federal government to individuals through entitlement programs like Medicare.







Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/#ixzz23qXzLMoX


The more these Republicans talk the more they remind me of snakes. The change in their policies are like snakes shedding skin, the 180 degrees due not to reversal of opinion but a compulsive desire to win regardless of what lies they have to tell make one wonder at the stupidity of the people following them! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/25/agenda-project/throw-granny-cliff-ad-says-paul-ryan-plan-would-pr/


You guys are a trip.  They offer a plan that you criticize so they change the original, with bi partisan help.  You then criticize the change that reflects the original criticism. 


Oh, dude, it was not a 180 degree turn.  Who is the snake dude?

The difference between us is that we believe the new "proposal" expire as soon as the election is over!
Flip-flop politics and etch-a-sketch promises.


This is how the Obamabots stifle debate.


I understand though.  They did vote for Obama and they did suffer such broken promises.  But Sibelius thinks it is a serious plan.

If you think our problems will go away while we have a two party system owned by the likes of Brothers Kooch I have an orange groove in Antarctica I'd like bids on.


I will stipulate that the left feels the Koch brothers are evil incarnate.  I will also stipulate that the obamabots think I personally am an evil self bastard who wants to steal grannies pension check.


With those stipulations is sebilius right or wrong and have done anything to protest her comments?

I think the proposal may be workable but any proposal which involves insurance companies is a waste the country can not afford.
When it comes to the Kooch and money in politics they are making an investment but as long as we have money in politics the public will not truly be represented in the government.


This ain't about the koch brothers.

Quote
I think the proposal may be workable but any proposal which involves insurance companies is a waste the country can not afford.


Of course you are against the ACA ( Obamacare).  You are of course supporting complete repeal.

Not repeal but an overhaul which will turn all control over to a non-profit single payer system.
Its about Brothers Kooch , Norquist and all others that are trying to corrupt our system by making politicians depend on hand outs from large corporations.

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Wow, the Koch brothers are behind obamacare.  Well, at least he is consistent.   :rotfl:
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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Wow, the Koch brothers are behind obamacare.  Well, at least he is consistent.   :rotfl:

Another message distorted; at least he is consistent.  :hogwash:

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Wow, the Koch brothers are behind obamacare.  Well, at least he is consistent.   :rotfl:

Another message distorted; at least he is consistent.  :hogwash:


Dude, then stop trying to work the **** Koch brothers into every conversation. 


Are you or are not a supporter of off the ACA?  Remember, YOU made the claim that any proposal that involves private insurance is a waste.  This has nothing to do with the f?cking Koch brothers.


Blame your self moron.





A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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Wow, the Koch brothers are behind obamacare.  Well, at least he is consistent.   :rotfl:

Another message distorted; at least he is consistent.  :hogwash:


Dude, then stop trying to work the **** Koch brothers into every conversation. 

I did not say Brothers Kooch were involved in our medical fraud system I said: "Its about Brothers Kooch , Norquist and all others that are trying to corrupt our system by making politicians depend on hand outs from large corporations". Which was the sentence you distorted for your agenda.


Are you or are not a supporter of off the ACA?  Remember, YOU made the claim that any proposal that involves private insurance is a waste.  This has nothing to do with the f?cking Koch brothers.

As far as The American Chiropractic Association (ACA) I know very little. When it comes to insurance companies I think they only serve to prevent proper insurance from being administered to us all.


Blame your self moron.

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Wow, the Koch brothers are behind obamacare.  Well, at least he is consistent.   :rotfl:
Another meage distorted; at least he is consistent.  :hogwash:


Dude, then stop trying to work the **** Koch brothers into every conversation. 

I did not say Brothers Kooch were involved in our medical fraud system I said: "Its about Brothers Kooch , Norquist and all others that are trying to corrupt our system by making politicians depend on hand outs from large corporations". Which was the sentence you distorted for your agenda.


Are you or are not a supporter of off the ACA?  Remember, YOU made the claim that any proposal that involves private insurance is a waste.  This has nothing to do with the f?cking Koch brothers.

As far as The American Chiropractic Association (ACA) I know very little. When it comes to insurance companies I think they only serve to prevent proper insurance from being administered to us all.


Blame your self moron.


Affordable  Care Act moron.  Obamacare.  If that is how you really feel you certainly must support full repeal.
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.