The GOP gets ONE thing right...

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I've been skimming over the copy of the GOP platform obtained by Politico and noticed that their stance on immigration is framed in its title quite aptly.  It's the plank that addresses Human Trafficking, which is what illegal migration into this country has been with "coyotes" and similar sorts of people.

While I'm all for Obama's Dream Act and giving people who were minors coming into this country basically a free pass (and they may have entered via child traffickers), I do think that the Dems have turned a blind eye to the trafficking part of this problem and latinos who don't recognize this as part and parcel of the problem shouldn't hold sway in this matter.

[Woody]

I've been skimming over the copy of the GOP platform obtained by Politico and noticed that their stance on immigration is framed in its title quite aptly.  It's the plank that addresses Human Trafficking, which is what illegal migration into this country has been with "coyotes" and similar sorts of people.

While I'm all for Obama's Dream Act and giving people who were minors coming into this country basically a free pass (and they may have entered via child traffickers), I do think that the Dems have turned a blind eye to the trafficking part of this problem and latinos who don't recognize this as part and parcel of the problem shouldn't hold sway in this matter.

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I've tried 7 ways from Sunday to try to copy/paste that portion of the platform in plain text but to no avail, even when using Adobe tools to do it with.

The four corners of that plank is straightforward enough for even me to endorse, and it doesn't specify one particular group of immigrants.  I'd certainly like to see that one borne out to the point where Cuban illegal immigrants aren't treated differently than other immigrants from the Gulf or Latin America are.  One policy should fairly fit all and I know that "one size fits all" is something totally against the Ayn Rand types  in the Republican Party.

[Woody]

I would really like to see it.  The only thing I can find is hard line immigration stances.  No sanctuary cities, build a fence, no amnesty, and keeping only the military aspect of the dream act. etc.


Can you post a link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rnc-platform-takes-hard-line-on-immigration-calls-for-more-border-fencing-use-of-e-verify/2012/08/23/cb08420e-ed6a-11e1-866f-60a00f604425_story.html


Also, do you support how Obama implemented the dream act?

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I would really like to see it.  The only thing I can find is hard line immigration stances.  No sanctuary cities, build a fence, no amnesty, and keeping only the military aspect of the dream act. etc.


Can you post a link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rnc-platform-takes-hard-line-on-immigration-calls-for-more-border-fencing-use-of-e-verify/2012/08/23/cb08420e-ed6a-11e1-866f-60a00f604425_story.html


Also, do you support how Obama implemented the dream act?

I attached the PDF of the entire platform preview in the OP message.  I think Obama's implementation (only from what I've read so far) of the Dream Act is fair.  Attached to this message is a screenshot of part of the Republican plank on Human Trafficking as I wanted to include the GOP web address of the page previous in this screen shot.  I took another screenshot of the GOP website which gave a page-does-not-exist error message.

[Woody]

I am on an iPad safari browser.  Can't access the attachment.  I will find it tommorrow.


Whether implementation of the dream act is fair or not is irrelevant to me.  He is bypassing congress and rewriting I migration law.  He had a chance to pass it with a dem controlled senate and it failed.


I also disagree with the stance of Romney concerning military service.  They should not serve.  To me it is close to hiring mercenaries, more so than contractors.

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I am on an iPad safari browser.  Can't access the attachment.  I will find it tommorrow.


Whether implementation of the dream act is fair or not is irrelevant to me.  He is bypassing congress and rewriting I migration law.  He had a chance to pass it with a dem controlled senate and it failed.


I also disagree with the stance of Romney concerning military service.  They should not serve.  To me it is close to hiring mercenaries, more so than contractors.

The Dream Act, as is any other Act, is an act of Congress.

Serving in the military in exchange for citizenship isn't a case of being paid with money or assets and it cannot be transferred to a different person, so therefore it's not mercenary.

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I just went to the Adobe Help center online and discovered that the author can put a block on copying, so that explains that.  I'll just have to resort to screenshots.

[Woody]

I am on an iPad safari browser.  Can't access the attachment.  I will find it tommorrow.


Whether implementation of the dream act is fair or not is irrelevant to me.  He is bypassing congress and rewriting I migration law.  He had a chance to pass it with a dem controlled senate and it failed.


I also disagree with the stance of Romney concerning military service.  They should not serve.  To me it is close to hiring mercenaries, more so than contractors.

The Dream Act, as is any other Act, is an act of Congress.

Serving in the military in exchange for citizenship isn't a case of being paid with money or assets and it cannot be transferred to a different person, so therefore it's not mercenary.

Umm, I said it was CLOSE to being a mercenary.  English still giving you fits?


As far as the dream act obama has managed to bypass congress and implement immigration policy by unilaterally ordering DOJ and ICE to allow certain illegals to stay.

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I am on an iPad safari browser.  Can't access the attachment.  I will find it tommorrow.


Whether implementation of the dream act is fair or not is irrelevant to me.  He is bypassing congress and rewriting I migration law.  He had a chance to pass it with a dem controlled senate and it failed.


I also disagree with the stance of Romney concerning military service.  They should not serve.  To me it is close to hiring mercenaries, more so than contractors.

The Dream Act, as is any other Act, is an act of Congress.

Serving in the military in exchange for citizenship isn't a case of being paid with money or assets and it cannot be transferred to a different person, so therefore it's not mercenary.

Umm, I said it was CLOSE to being a mercenary.  English still giving you fits?

Of course you did. I'm saying it's not even close. That's a pretty big stretch, actually.

As far as the dream act obama has managed to bypass congress and implement immigration policy by unilaterally ordering DOJ and ICE to allow certain illegals to stay.

That's exactly what the GOP regimes did with OSHA and the EPA: downsized and refused to fund enforcement.  If that's illegal then the GOP have been unindicted criminals for eons.

[Woody]

I am on an iPad safari browser.  Can't access the attachment.  I will find it tommorrow.


Whether implementation of the dream act is fair or not is irrelevant to me.  He is bypassing congress and rewriting I migration law.  He had a chance to pass it with a dem controlled senate and it failed.


I also disagree with the stance of Romney concerning military service.  They should not serve.  To me it is close to hiring mercenaries, more so than contractors.
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The Dream Act, as is any other Act, is an act of Congress.

Serving in the military in exchange for citizenship isn't a case of being paid with money or assets and it cannot be transferred to a different person, so therefore it's not mercenary.

Umm, I said it was CLOSE to being a mercenary.  English still giving you fits?

Of course you did. I'm saying it's not even close. That's a pretty big stretch, actually.

As far as the dream act obama has managed to bypass congress and implement immigration policy by unilaterally ordering DOJ and ICE to allow certain illegals to stay.

That's exactly what the GOP regimes did with OSHA and the EPA: downsized and refused to fund enforcement.  If that's illegal then the GOP have been unindicted criminals for eons.

Can you please reference what you are talking about re: OSHA and the EPA? A quick google search shows nothing to support your unsubstantiated rhetoric.  Defunding and downsizing is far from Obama's executive immigration fiat.  Thanks.


But I am glad you agree that what Obama did is at the least stretching the constitution and at worst downright unconstitutional.