Author Topic: What Shall Rachel & Tweety Think of Paul Ryan's Great Speech?  (Read 137 times)

Offline kentay

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Did Obama cut $700 billion from Medicare?but they disagree over the best path forward. We have generally given Republicans Two Pinocchios for such claims.
Republican Campaign Mantra:
We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

Offline Woody

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Te post from anther thread for kentay:

Here is a more balanced breakdown of the claims. 

http://factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/



A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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another repost for kentay:



For those who live and die by Politiact.  I read it to, have the app, but I also rad WAPO factchecker and of act check.org.  politifact has a tendency to be very literal when fact checking left wing talking points in order to sway a little left.


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Its recent rulings on Medicare have demonstrated the point thrice over. PolitiFactsaidzingedcallshttp://www.nationalreview.com/articles/315125/politifiction-editors
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

Offline kentay

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Republican Campaign Mantra:
We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

Offline Woody

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Notice kentay tales the link I posted for him and cherry picks what's erroneous in the Romney claim yet ignores the Obama dishonesty.  That is the difference between a normal person and a demobot posting as an Obamabot. 


But guess what?  I knew he would. 


Great job kentay!   :applause:
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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Notice Kentay did not wispy to discuss what the Chief Actuary of Medicare said about BOTH plans. 


Why is that kentay?  Shall I get more kentay?




A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

Offline clistensprechen

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Te post from anther thread for kentay:

Here is a more balanced breakdown of the claims. 

http://factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/



That's nice and all that, but it seems to me you guys should rip Ryan just over his words, sounding exactly like a bleedin' heart liberal.  You know cons use that term to deride liberals with--and it's because that sort of thing just isn't in a con's political DNA.

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Te post from anther thread for kentay:

Here is a more balanced breakdown of the claims. 

http://factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/




That's nice and all that, but it seems to me you guys should rip Ryan just over his words, sounding exactly like a bleedin' heart liberal.  You know cons use that term to deride liberals with--and it's because that sort of thing just isn't in a con's political DNA.




I'll take this as Clara's veiled acceptance that Ryan's plan is not what she and liberals claimed it was.
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

Offline kentay

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The Vacuum Behind the Slogans

The party platform mentions a few Medicaid details, but not a word of the real plan has been uttered at the convention microphone. The best way to duck the tough issues, apparently, is simply to claim very loudly that you are doing the opposite.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/opinion/the-vacuum-behind-the-republican-political-slogans.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Republican Campaign Mantra:
We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

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Te post from anther thread for kentay:

Here is a more balanced breakdown of the claims. 

http://factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/




That's nice and all that, but it seems to me you guys should rip Ryan just over his words, sounding exactly like a bleedin' heart liberal.  You know cons use that term to deride liberals with--and it's because that sort of thing just isn't in a con's political DNA.




I'll take this as Clara's veiled acceptance that Ryan's plan is not what she and liberals claimed it was.
Clara doesn't accept your non sequitur. :P

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Paul Ryan's Misleading GOP Convention Speech
Thursday August 30, 2012

Republican VP candidate Paul Ryan delivers a speech that is more about big ideas than it is about facts -- ideas like "Lying is handy."

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/418523/august-30-2012/paul-ryan-s-misleading-gop-convention-speech
Republican Campaign Mantra:
We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

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Yeah, kentay uses Colbert to factcheck the factcheckers!

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Colbert's got more factual true facts than the whole raft of Republicans running for office this year.  :popcorn: