Anyone ready for a conspiracy theory?

[Gnosisquest]

Could it be possible that Obama was allowed to become President to further the goals of the oligarch's?
It seems possible that the wealthy sociopaths that rule this nation welcomed Obama with open arms. He fell right into their plans for they felt they would be able to discredit him and make him unable to do anything to help the nation.
With the President discredited they could get their own puppets elected and take over the running of the nation with little or no opposition.
So we sit on the sidelines watching the take over, 35 million people in the country without enough food. 13 million of them children that do not know where their next meal is coming from and we are to blame Obama?

Now the puppets doing the bidding of the wealthy puppet masters are not just Republicans; Democrats are also corporate puppets.

[clistensprechen]

Well, that's certainly more believable than a lot of the CTs running around out there.  :cheers:

[Gnosisquest]

Well, that's certainly more believable than a lot of the CTs running around out there.  :cheers:

I just get tired of watching the one side versus the other all the time.
I feel it is a lot bigger than the blame game.

[clistensprechen]

Ya, they're both ridiculous, aren't they?  But we're stuck with a 2 party non-system. It has to be one side or the other until we get more choices besides Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dummer.

[Gnosisquest]

Ya, they're both ridiculous, aren't they?  But we're stuck with a 2 party non-system. It has to be one side or the other until we get more choices besides Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dummer.

More choices and money out of politics; this is no way to run a leading nation!  :cheers:

[clistensprechen]

Ya, they're both ridiculous, aren't they?  But we're stuck with a 2 party non-system. It has to be one side or the other until we get more choices besides Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dummer.

More choices and money out of politics; this is no way to run a leading nation!  :cheers:

Amen and a half to that!  :applause:

[Ted S]

Could it be possible that Obama was allowed to become President to further the goals of the oligarch's?
It seems possible that the wealthy sociopaths that rule this nation welcomed Obama with open arms. He fell right into their plans for they felt they would be able to discredit him and make him unable to do anything to help the nation.
With the President discredited they could get their own puppets elected and take over the running of the nation with little or no opposition.
So we sit on the sidelines watching the take over, 35 million people in the country without enough food. 13 million of them children that do not know where their next meal is coming from and we are to blame Obama?

Now the puppets doing the bidding of the wealthy puppet masters are not just Republicans; Democrats are also corporate puppets.

Me thinks that the closer we get to November the more Gnosisquest smells defeat.  Afterall, who in their right mind would not just sign up for another four years of the same!  It's got to be a vast right wing conspiracy, it couldn't just be that Obama and his administration have failed to produce the Utopia they promised.

But now Gnosisquest isn't the first one to conjure up a conspiracy theory.  Ms. Clinton floated that idea so many years ago now when word leaked that her husband was having relations with one Monica Lewinski right under her nose.  A conspiracy seemed like the only plausible reason because, well, you know, her horn-dog of a husband wouldn't have done something like that.

[clistensprechen]

Hey Ted! Clinton isn't running and his tenure is older than Dubya's!

[Gnosisquest]

Could it be possible that Obama was allowed to become President to further the goals of the oligarch's?
It seems possible that the wealthy sociopaths that rule this nation welcomed Obama with open arms. He fell right into their plans for they felt they would be able to discredit him and make him unable to do anything to help the nation.
With the President discredited they could get their own puppets elected and take over the running of the nation with little or no opposition.
So we sit on the sidelines watching the take over, 35 million people in the country without enough food. 13 million of them children that do not know where their next meal is coming from and we are to blame Obama?

Now the puppets doing the bidding of the wealthy puppet masters are not just Republicans; Democrats are also corporate puppets.

Me thinks that the closer we get to November the more Gnosisquest smells defeat.  Afterall, who in their right mind would not just sign up for another four years of the same!  It's got to be a vast right wing conspiracy, it couldn't just be that Obama and his administration have failed to produce the Utopia they promised.

But now Gnosisquest isn't the first one to conjure up a conspiracy theory.  Ms. Clinton floated that idea so many years ago now when word leaked that her husband was having relations with one Monica Lewinski right under her nose.  A conspiracy seemed like the only plausible reason because, well, you know, her horn-dog of a husband wouldn't have done something like that.

I see defeat regardless of who wins; as long as we keep electing the corporate puppets to Senate and House it don't matter which cheap shots you come up with the "American Dream" will remain only a dream for those that work for a living!

[Ted S]

I see defeat regardless of who wins; as long as we keep electing the corporate puppets to Senate and House it don't matter which cheap shots you come up with the "American Dream" will remain only a dream for those that work for a living!

I personally know four people who were regular working Joes and through their risk taking, talent, and hard work they all became multi-millionaires.  There was no conspiracy against them, the cause of their success was of their own doing.

[Gnosisquest]

I see defeat regardless of who wins; as long as we keep electing the corporate puppets to Senate and House it don't matter which cheap shots you come up with the "American Dream" will remain only a dream for those that work for a living!

I personally know four people who were regular working Joes and through their risk taking, talent, and hard work they all became multi-millionaires.  There was no conspiracy against them, the cause of their success was of their own doing.

So what? If the only type of success in this life is the acquisition of wealth, life would indeed be shallow.
I want to know who and what we are, beyond the millions of cells I build every second or the religious superstition. In my opinion it is far more important than all the gold in the world! Oh by the way I have spent almost fifty years working. I am not wealthy, I have enough, and that is more than a lot of the greedy bastards have.

[Woody]

I see defeat regardless of who wins; as long as we keep electing the corporate puppets to Senate and House it don't matter which cheap shots you come up with the "American Dream" will remain only a dream for those that work for a living!

I personally know four people who were regular working Joes and through their risk taking, talent, and hard work they all became multi-millionaires.  There was no conspiracy against them, the cause of their success was of their own doing.

So what? If the only type of success in this life is the acquisition of wealth, life would indeed be shallow.
I want to know who and what we are, beyond the millions of cells I build every second or the religious superstition. In my opinion it is far more important than all the gold in the world! Oh by the way I have spent almost fifty years working. I am not wealthy, I have enough, and that is more than a lot of the greedy bastards have.

When you are talking about creating jobs I want the greedy bastards to come out of the wood works as they did when we were under the leadership of guys like JFK, Reagan and Clinton.

[Gnosisquest]

I see defeat regardless of who wins; as long as we keep electing the corporate puppets to Senate and House it don't matter which cheap shots you come up with the "American Dream" will remain only a dream for those that work for a living!

I personally know four people who were regular working Joes and through their risk taking, talent, and hard work they all became multi-millionaires.  There was no conspiracy against them, the cause of their success was of their own doing.

So what? If the only type of success in this life is the acquisition of wealth, life would indeed be shallow.
I want to know who and what we are, beyond the millions of cells I build every second or the religious superstition. In my opinion it is far more important than all the gold in the world! Oh by the way I have spent almost fifty years working. I am not wealthy, I have enough, and that is more than a lot of the greedy bastards have.

When you are talking about creating jobs I want the greedy bastards to come out of the wood works as they did when we were under the leadership of guys like JFK, Reagan and Clinton.

The greedy bastards only create jobs when it is in their selfish interest which is the main reason they have to be taxed more.
As long as they can take money out of the company and stash it overseas without hardly any taxes they will not start jobs.
There is very few of them that feel any loyalty to anyone!

Also there has to be demand before jobs get created and when people can't find well paying jobs there is no money to create a demand.
The "right to work" right to undercut and get cheap labor may look good to corporations wanting cheap labor but like the trickle up economy it doesn't work! When all the money is stuck with a few greedy bastards nothing happens unless it gets pried loose.

[Woody]

I see defeat regardless of who wins; as long as we keep electing the corporate puppets to Senate and House it don't matter which cheap shots you come up with the "American Dream" will remain only a dream for those that work for a living!

I personally know four people who were regular working Joes and through their risk taking, talent, and hard work they all became multi-millionaires.  There was no conspiracy against them, the cause of their success was of their own doing.

So what? If the only type of success in this life is the acquisition of wealth, life would indeed be shallow.
I want to know who and what we are, beyond the millions of cells I build every second or the religious superstition. In my opinion it is far more important than all the gold in the world! Oh by the way I have spent almost fifty years working. I am not wealthy, I have enough, and that is more than a lot of the greedy bastards have.

When you are talking about creating jobs I want the greedy bastards to come out of the wood works as they did when we were under the leadership of guys like JFK, Reagan and Clinton.

The greedy bastards only create jobs when it is in their selfish interest which is the main reason they have to be taxed more.
As long as they can take money out of the company and stash it overseas without hardly any taxes they will not start jobs.
There is very few of them that feel any loyalty to anyone!

Also there has to be demand before jobs get created and when people can't find well paying jobs there is no money to create a demand.
The "right to work" right to undercut and get cheap labor may look good to corporations wanting cheap labor but like the trickle up economy it doesn't work! When all the money is stuck with a few greedy bastards nothing happens unless it gets pried loose.

1.  There is a demand for jobs.


2.  Reduce burdensome regulation and taxation, ala JFK, Reagan and Clinton, and the greedy bastards as you call them expand and hire. 


3.  The right to work states with lower tax rates are doing really well.  Remember, right to work does not ban unions, it gives the worker the right to choose whether or not to join a union.


4.  Your thought process is why we are in this stagnant economy.  Even John Maynard Keynes, the father of liberal economics, advises you do not raise taxes (remove money) in a stagnant economy.  You wait until the boom returns.


5.  Even the Obama administration admits his tax proposals really won't do much.

[Gnosisquest]

I see defeat regardless of who wins; as long as we keep electing the corporate puppets to Senate and House it don't matter which cheap shots you come up with the "American Dream" will remain only a dream for those that work for a living!

I personally know four people who were regular working Joes and through their risk taking, talent, and hard work they all became multi-millionaires.  There was no conspiracy against them, the cause of their success was of their own doing.

So what? If the only type of success in this life is the acquisition of wealth, life would indeed be shallow.
I want to know who and what we are, beyond the millions of cells I build every second or the religious superstition. In my opinion it is far more important than all the gold in the world! Oh by the way I have spent almost fifty years working. I am not wealthy, I have enough, and that is more than a lot of the greedy bastards have.

When you are talking about creating jobs I want the greedy bastards to come out of the wood works as they did when we were under the leadership of guys like JFK, Reagan and Clinton.

The greedy bastards only create jobs when it is in their selfish interest which is the main reason they have to be taxed more.
As long as they can take money out of the company and stash it overseas without hardly any taxes they will not start jobs.
There is very few of them that feel any loyalty to anyone!

Also there has to be demand before jobs get created and when people can't find well paying jobs there is no money to create a demand.
The "right to work" right to undercut and get cheap labor may look good to corporations wanting cheap labor but like the trickle up economy it doesn't work! When all the money is stuck with a few greedy bastards nothing happens unless it gets pried loose.

1.  There is a demand for jobs.


2.  Reduce burdensome regulation and taxation, ala JFK, Reagan and Clinton, and the greedy bastards as you call them expand and hire. 


3.  The right to work states with lower tax rates are doing really well.  Remember, right to work does not ban unions, it gives the worker the right to choose whether or not to join a union.


4.  Your thought process is why we are in this stagnant economy.  Even John Maynard Keynes, the father of liberal economics, advises you do not raise taxes (remove money) in a stagnant economy.  You wait until the boom returns.


5.  Even the Obama administration admits his tax proposals really won't do much.

1. Not new.

2. Absolutely not; further deregulation will put not only our children in grave danger but every citizen!
    We need a lot more regulations and those that can't comply are out of business lots of new entrepreneurs!

3. Nonsense; unless there is also a "living wage law" enacted. For example; it should be illegal to pay anyone less than $20.00 an hour.

4. Nonsense; but only tax earnings above $100K more than they are now and only personal earnings. Taxes could be up to 75% on personal earnings above a million and it would only be positive.

5. No his tax proposal is far too low!