Author Topic: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?  (Read 182 times)

Offline wbcoleman

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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2012, 02:09:13 pm »
Woody, pay attention when I say (and repeat) that Dubya was just a rubber stamp for a Congress that ran itself like a Politburo with Dubya its Premiere. The problem wasn't so much Dubya as it was his Party.  You know, the same Party that wants the keys to the republic back so it can run it further into the ground with the same ole ****.  The Architect ain't running but he's still Architecting. He ain't retired, and he's still a part of the problem.

Clara, read this very carefully.  If you can not understand it get someone to explained it to you.  You blamed bush, so I asked you to post the specific policies that bush was responsible for and now you claim he was a rubber stamp for congress.  Now you claim it was congress.  So, tell us what specific policies that congress turned into laws that bush signed to create the mess we are in almost 4 years since he left office.

You would think that Clara could post these laws that congress passed.  Shouldn't be that hard.

Next, I asked you what the democrats proposed when taking it over in 2007 that would have reversed  the trend.  Still nothing.

Bush is not on the ballot.

I ain't up for doing heavy research at this time of night, hon. I was basically agreeing with you that it's not Dubya's fault EXCEPT FOR THE FACT HE DIDN'T VETO ANY OF THE BILLS THAT POLITBURO CONGRESS SENT TO  HIS DESK. He rubber stamped every single one of 'em like a good li'l party boy.

And I'll grant you that a lot of the financial problems coming home to roost began with Reagan and I know, he's not running for office either.  My point:

IT'S THE PARTY'S FAULT, AND YOU WANT US TO PUT THE PARTY WHOSE FAULT IT IS BACK IN POWER.

Reagan actually had to clean up the Savings & Loan mess left over from the Carter era, did he not?  And the roots of the 2007-2008 crisis lie, at least in part, from the 1990's.
No he did not, and here's a reminder that prominent members of his party (same party that wrecked the economy under Dubya) were indicted.

Thank you for bringing up yet another reason to avoid giving Republicans any power.  :wuv:

The S&L crisis originated when Paul Volker jacked interest rates up to 20% during the final years of the Carter Administration.
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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2012, 02:24:28 pm »
When does new President budget start changing the Previous presidents budge policies. The Federal Fiscal Year starts, and summaries for each budget from FY to FY ... It runs from October 1 of the prior year through September 30 of this year. So President Obama Policies were not in effect until his 1st budget on Oct 1, 2009. So when the lame Romney talkers,  ask are you better off today than you were four years ago the answers has to be yes. Four years ago was September 3, 2008. so let us look at what the conditions were back during the Bush Administration on September 3, 2008 and then lets us be fair and compare it to September 3, 2012 after President Obama 3 years of his policy being enacted. kentay 

 
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We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2012, 02:32:11 pm »
Why do you keep trying to divert every thread you touch?
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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2012, 02:33:24 pm »
Republican Campaign Mantra:
We turned over a real mess to President Obama, he hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so give us another chance to  create a depression.

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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2012, 02:49:02 pm »
kentay, you're a SPAMMER!   :rotfl:
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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2012, 02:55:23 pm »
If obama did such a bang up job why do many Americans feel they are not better off than 4 years ago and the majority of Americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction?  If Obama has done such a bang up job why are Obama and his minions, the Obamabots, continually telling us that it is still Bush's fault?
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I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2012, 02:58:56 pm »
And you WBC are a whiner. Your Header says "So, Are You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?"  I am answering your Question and you don't like it, I say too bad because it's you that has the problem. kentay 
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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2012, 03:06:04 pm »
If obama did such a bang up job why do many Americans feel they are not better off than 4 years ago and the majority of Americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction?  If Obama has done such a bang up job why are Obama and his minions, the Obamabots, continually telling us that it is still Bush's fault?

  Because everything has a starting Point and in order to show people like you that don't get the truth from Fox and Rush someone has to show you. President Obama has come a long way into bringing us back if you measure it from the Hole the Bush admen put us in. President Obama took over Jan20, 2009 but his first budget was Oct 1, 2009 so everything that happened until that date was caused by Bush Policy not President Obama policy. I hope this helps you to understand.  kentay
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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2012, 03:10:15 pm »
And to top it off, you're living in a fantasy world!
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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2012, 03:34:57 pm »
And to top it off, you're living in a fantasy world!


Just agree with him with a smile.  He is like the proverbial crazy old uncle that lives in the attic.  Every so often he comes down wearing his WW2 helmet prattling on how he is gonna get those Jap bastards for pearl harbor.  Just say "sure uncle kentay, sure". 
A reminder for kentay:
I fully support going back to ALL, that says ALL THE CLINTON TAX and spend policies that led to the economic boom in the second half of the 90's.

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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2012, 03:40:29 pm »
And to top it off, you're living in a fantasy world!

Just agree with him with a smile.  He is like the proverbial crazy old uncle that lives in the attic.  Every so often he comes down wearing his WW2 helmet prattling on how he is gonna get those Jap bastards for pearl harbor.  Just say "sure uncle kentay, sure".

but.... but.... what if he drowns in the drool?
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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2012, 03:45:07 pm »
And to top it off, you're living in a fantasy world!

Just agree with him with a smile.  He is like the proverbial crazy old uncle that lives in the attic.  Every so often he comes down wearing his WW2 helmet prattling on how he is gonna get those Jap bastards for pearl harbor.  Just say "sure uncle kentay, sure".

but.... but.... what if he drowns in the drool?


No worries.  He has his oxygen tank handy.  Just keep his pack of camels away from it.



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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2012, 03:49:10 pm »
When does new President budget start changing the Previous presidents budge policies. The Federal Fiscal Year starts, and summaries for each budget from FY to FY ... It runs from October 1 of the prior year through September 30 of this year. So President Obama Policies were not in effect until his 1st budget on Oct 1, 2009. So when the lame Romney talkers,  ask are you better off today than you were four years ago the answers has to be yes. Four years ago was September 3, 2008. so let us look at what the conditions were back during the Bush Administration on September 3, 2008 and then lets us be fair and compare it to September 3, 2012 after President Obama 3 years of his policy being enacted. kentay 

 
Nice catch. Very true.

I know housing starts are up and property values have stopped tanking, too and domestic manufacturing is up as well, although the destruction of property via natural disasters may have quite a bit to do with that.  Nonetheless, looking forward to this sort of "October Surprise".

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Re: So, ARE You Better Off than You Were Four Years Ago?
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2012, 10:50:24 am »
Here's why O and his surrogates want to try and deflect this:



Hill Poll: Voters say second term undeserved, country is worse off
By Sheldon Alberts    - 09/04/12 05:00 AM ET

http://thehill.com/conventions-2012/dem-convention-charlotte/247263-hill-poll-voters-think-second-term-undeserved
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