The obvious answer to the 'better off' question

[kentay]

The obvious answer to the 'better off' question



A metaphor:
A man had a near fatal heart attack and his Surgeon Obama, had saved his life and put him on a regiment of less stress over wars, manufacturing, and the possibility of a good future job, because he has removed the Junk food called Bush from his diet. The man after 3 and a half years has improved his vitality and endurance. In a overheard conversation the man, was heard saying to his friend, " I thank God for a man like Surgeon Obama who cares about people like me in the middle class and the poor, by taking us off the Bush junk food that was killing us all."  The surgeon said that to build a lasting life I had to change what caused my near fatal attack with a slow build up of reforms and most of all the removal of those things that made me sick in the first place over the next several years, my future now is looking great. Thanks again to my Surgeon Obama  kentay.   

[kentay]

According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the U.S. economy was in a
recession for 18 months from December 2007 to June 2009. It was the longest and deepest
recession of the post-World War II era. The recession can be separated into two distinct phases.
During the first phase, which lasted for the first half of 2008, the recession was not deep as
measured by the decline in gross domestic product (GDP) or the rise in unemployment. It then
deepened from the third quarter of 2008 to the first quarter of 2009. The economy continued to
contract slightly in the second quarter of 2009, before returning to expansion in the third quarter.
The recent recession features the largest decline in output, consumption, and investment, and the
largest increase in unemployment, of any post-war recession.

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New employment report numbers are expected this week, too. Congrats, kentay, on starting a thread that our cons won't touch (so far).

Are we better off now than we were 4 years ago under Dubya?  Cons didn't wanna go back to Dubya, but they asked the question that went nowhere else but there.  Dubya is now running in this campaign. Yeah, let's go there.

[kentay]

New employment report numbers are expected this week, too. Congrats, kentay, on starting a thread that our cons won't touch (so far).

Are we better off now than we were 4 years ago under Dubya?  Cons didn't wanna go back to Dubya, but they asked the question that went nowhere else but there.  Dubya is now running in this campaign. Yeah, let's go there.

Clara, have you noticed how the Romney crowd only answers with one liners that's because they don't yet have someone tell them what they should say. Each one of them gets their talking point from e-mails, Fox and Rush type sites. It's like they have no thoughts on their own and are nothing but lemmings robots. Until one or more of them decides to express themselves in their own words it's almost impossible to have any real discussion with just one liners.

Osama ben Laden is dead an General Motors is alive, were out of Iraq and almost out of Afghanistan, the stock market went from in the 6000 to over 13,000, 30 months of continue Public sector job creation, more jobs have been created during those 30 months than bush created in 8 years with 2 tax cuts for the so called job Creators, housing market that was destroyed under the Bush Administration derugulation  is now coming back with housing prices increasing, we have gone from a country being hated around the world to one that is respected around the world. After Thursday night's speeches of VP Biden and President Obama they will spell out where he wants to take us in the future in education, job training, green jobs and changing over from a carbon energy world to a renewable energy world, with a strong military built for today's wars, not 20 century wars. He is bringing  our Veterans home and providing jobs and retraining for them with the best medical care this country has, and he will continue to build on the respect we have around the world while training our young people for the jobs of today and tomorrow. I am sure there is much more that I have left out so I will be listening and watching our President and VP speeches on Thursday like most Americans will during the half time of the football games. kentay   

[kentay]

Are We Better Off? 10 Headlines From September 2008Yes, we are when we compare where we were after 8 years of Bush crony economic policies. When we look back at how close we were to total failure it shows how close we came to another Hoover type Depression. I think most people have to question the tired old Republican policy that never work.   kentay 

[kentay]

 

 

See more charts here ( http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/economy/news/2012/09/04/36357/are-we-better-off-now-than-in-2008-you-betcha/ ). Four years ago, the economy was gripped by financial panic, with hundreds of thousands of jobs being shed each month. Now, the economy is adding jobs (too slowly), while the government has new powers to rein in the financial sector and hopefully prevent a repeat of the 2008 crisis.

[Woody]

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US Slips Down the Ranks of Global Competitiveness




http://www.cnbc.com/id/48905756
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[kentay]

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US Slips Down the Ranks of Global Competitiveness




http://www.cnbc.com/id/48905756
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It sure looks like by your focus that you and your co-Hearts are rooting for our country to fail so you can put the Flip Flopper in-chief in power. Why would anyone vote for a president that has accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. I think Reagan is turning over in his grave because I know of no president who held accounts in another country than the one he wanted to be president of. Kentay   

[Woody]

US Slips Down the Ranks of Global Competitiveness




http://www.cnbc.com/id/48905756
The United States has slipped further down a global ranking of the world's most competitive economies, according to a World Economic Forum (WEF) survey released on Wednesday.The world's largest economy, which was placed 5th last year, fell two positions to the 7th spot - marking its fourth year of decline.

It sure looks like by your focus that you and your co-Hearts are rooting for our country to fail so you can put the Flip Flopper in-chief in power. Why would anyone vote for a president that has accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. I think Reagan is turning over in his grave because I know of no president who held accounts in another country than the one he wanted to be president of. Kentay   

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Kentay says ignore the elephant in the room.



This has got to be a rabbit post.  So if we bring up bad stats in kentay world that means we are rooting against the country?  You started this thread to spin bad numbers to tell us how great things are.  They aren't kentay.  You and yours would rather lie about the state of the economy than admit that what we have done for 3 1/2 years isn't working. 

You are right about one thing.  Reagan is rolling in his grave because he is seeing what you and yours are doing to the country.  I am rooting against your policies.

[kentay]

US productivity grew at 2.2 percent annual rate in 2nd quarter, faster than previously thought

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-productivity-grew-at-22-percent-annual-rate-in-2nd-quarter-faster-than-previously-thought/2012/09/05/1ff70444-f757-11e1-a93b-7185e3f88849_story.html

[Woody]

US productivity grew at 2.2 percent annual rate in 2nd quarter, faster than previously thought

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-productivity-grew-at-22-percent-annual-rate-in-2nd-quarter-faster-than-previously-thought/2012/09/05/1ff70444-f757-11e1-a93b-7185e3f88849_story.html

Kentay, that isn't exactly a stat you want to use to brag about how good things are currently.  That means companies are getting more production from less people.  From your link:

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US Slips Down the Ranks of Global Competitiveness




http://www.cnbc.com/id/48905756
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[/color]The world's largest economy, which was placed 5th last year, fell two positions to the 7th spot - marking its fourth year of decline.[/font][/size]
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That's the best argument I've ever seen for never electing a Republican to high office ever again, actually. Outsourcing in the name of being competitive on the global market was the Republican argument in favor of outsourcing....which clearly didn't work, did it.  You can chalk that up to another Republican FAIL.

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US productivity grew at 2.2 percent annual rate in 2nd quarter, faster than previously thought

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-productivity-grew-at-22-percent-annual-rate-in-2nd-quarter-faster-than-previously-thought/2012/09/05/1ff70444-f757-11e1-a93b-7185e3f88849_story.html

Kentay, that isn't exactly a stat you want to use to brag about how good things are currently.  That means companies are getting more production from less people.  From your link:

You failed to mention that productivity also boosts a corporation's competitiveness, and it nonetheless failed per previous post. Time for a different theory on production because prevailing Republican theory is one big fat FAIL.

[Woody]

US Slips Down the Ranks of Global Competitivenes




http://www.cnbc.com/id/48905756
The United States has slipped further down a global ranking of the world's most competitive economies, according to a World Economic Forum (WEF) survey released on Wednesday.The world's largest economy, which was placed 5th last year, fell two positions to the 7th spot - marking its fourth year of decline.

That's the best argument I've ever seen for never electing a Republican to high office ever again, actually. Outsourcing in the name of being competitive on the global market was the Republican argument in favor of outsourcing....which clearly didn't work, did it.  You can chalk that up to another Republican FAIL.

 



Barry ain't a republican. 




Just sayin'.......


You guys are a hoot.  3 1/2 years of Barry's policies and the country is going backwards.  And the best this Obamabot can do is skip that and blame republicans.  Don't bother pressing her to name these policies, Particulary when the dems ran the entire legislative branch for four years.  No sir, all she can do is promote talking points.


Forward Barry says.  Unfortunately Clara the queen Obama bot is stuck in reverse.

[Woody]

US productivity grew at 2.2 percent annual rate in 2nd quarter, faster than previously thought

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-productivity-grew-at-22-percent-annual-rate-in-2nd-quarter-faster-than-previously-thought/2012/09/05/1ff70444-f757-11e1-a93b-7185e3f88849_story.html

Kentay, that isn't exactly a stat you want to use to brag about how good things are currently.  That means companies are getting more production from less people.  From your link:

You failed to mention that productivity also boosts a corporation's competitiveness, and it nonetheless failed per previous post. Time for a different theory on production because prevailing Republican theory is one big fat FAIL.

1.  It is kentay's article.  Nothing is ailed to be mentioned when it is linked.


2.  Of course, dembot, when you increase profit with fewer workers you also increase competitiveness.  You did notice that both articles came out at the same time, right?