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Offline donni

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dead babies
« on: December 15, 2012, 12:48:05 pm »
so he has tears for american babies killed by one lone crazy proudly on display but what of those he kills every day with impunity and pragmatism. look up-see any drones?

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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2012, 07:36:56 pm »
so he has tears for american babies killed by one lone crazy proudly on display but what of those he kills every day with impunity and pragmatism. look up-see any drones?

You see no difference between the two situations?
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 12:54:11 am »
so he has tears for american babies killed by one lone crazy proudly on display but what of those he kills every day with impunity and pragmatism. look up-see any drones?

You see no difference between the two situations?

you always ask me questions and when i give you my answer ignore it. also when i ask a question of u, u almost always ignore it or respond with a question of ur own. so tell me- why should i answer u, and why don't u just tell me what diff u think u see?

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2012, 06:20:18 pm »
so from ur silence i am left to surmise that you are incapable of forming ur own reasonings-u just want the chance to pick apart another's. not nice and certainly not a 'debate'. u don't debate-u try to only be in a position to  ridicule-i won't play that way.



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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 06:24:01 pm »
but i will attempt to answer u in this way-

"...Our Littlest Echo, sits pensive and wounded before us. He speaks loudly this little boy lost, of the carnage-the barbaric savagery of war. His little face needs to be taken to Washington and held before the world. He is everybody's child--he is the loudest voice--the most articulate of speeches--the most thoughtful of banners, of what we have become. The men in black helmeted uniforms with their clubs and shields need to unmask and see what the people cry peace for. This babe is the son of their loins--their future.
 
They need to throw their helmets and clubs aside and join the world in its cry for survival for that's what it has come to.
 
And the Littlest Echo, and all whom he represents; be they a U.S. Soldier's son--an Afghanistan child or an Iraqi youngster----what have they to say if they could? "I am the lie that you believed. My stunted arms represent a world grown callous and cold, unable to lift the suffering-the helpless-the lonely--the dispossessed--the sick and the stranger from a world gone mad in its selfish egotistical pride that sees only to its own desires--lusts--and conquests. My stunted legs represent a world unable, through deformity, to run to the aid of another, to take a stand, to become involved locally-domestically or globally with others in bettering their communities and nations. My eyes see beyond your petty jealousies, your unforgiveness-one to another, your drunkenness, your abuses, your bias, prejudice, hate, anger, greed, ego, and arrogant self righteousness. You look upon me with pity--you need not. For I am just like you only inside out. If for a brief moment in time the deformities of your own natures--your spiritual void, your lewd lusts, your indifference and murder of the innocents; through war or domination, could be made manifest, it is you who would be the one to be pitied and I most whole. I am a world without song--without laughter--without joyful dance. Make me whole, make us whole. Go and speak where I cannot. You must persist, you are about Truth-Love-and Peace. You are about the saving of the whole of the Earth, believe me you are. This is the real mission, and you will win, for where there is great evil--love abounds even more. Tell them, shout it, sing it, we will have Peace, we will not be silenced."-judith moriarty

so what is the difference?

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 04:10:04 am »
Excuse me, this board is dead, I'm not checking it every five minutes.  Why have you suddenly decided to denounce me?

As for the dead babies, there's no question that dead is dead and a grieving parent is a grieving parent.  I agree completely on that, and if you take a totally pacifist anti-war position then I guess there is no difference.  Most people, however, do not view the war in Afghanistan as purposeless violence.  Do you believe in a right of self-defense on either an individual or a national level?
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 01:57:16 pm »
Excuse me, this board is dead, I'm not checking it every five minutes.  Why have you suddenly decided to denounce me?

As for the dead babies, there's no question that dead is dead and a grieving parent is a grieving parent.  I agree completely on that, and if you take a totally pacifist anti-war position then I guess there is no difference.  Most people, however, do not view the war in Afghanistan as purposeless violence.  Do you believe in a right of self-defense on either an individual or a national level?


b.s.-u've been here and gone again w/o posting-so don't give me that and expect me to buy it.

oh, i'll grant u -it's NOT PURPOSELESS violence-they have an agenda-theft, control of resources-call it what u will -it is NOT about DEFENSE! more b.s. u try and sell as truth.

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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 06:05:24 pm »
Excuse me, this board is dead, I'm not checking it every five minutes.  Why have you suddenly decided to denounce me?

As for the dead babies, there's no question that dead is dead and a grieving parent is a grieving parent.  I agree completely on that, and if you take a totally pacifist anti-war position then I guess there is no difference.  Most people, however, do not view the war in Afghanistan as purposeless violence.  Do you believe in a right of self-defense on either an individual or a national level?


b.s.-u've been here and gone again w/o posting-so don't give me that and expect me to buy it.

oh, i'll grant u -it's NOT PURPOSELESS violence-they have an agenda-theft, control of resources-call it what u will -it is NOT about DEFENSE! more b.s. u try and sell as truth.

I believe our invasion of Afghanistan was a response to the Afghanistan-based attacks on our country launched on September 11, 2001.  Do you disagree with that?
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2012, 07:16:42 pm »
yes-we STILL don't know who did 911-never PROVEN. i think it was a good excuse to do what they want. PNAC

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 07:43:27 pm »
yes-we STILL don't know who did 911-never PROVEN. i think it was a good excuse to do what they want. PNAC

Wow, a 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist!  Sorry, I think that's nuts.
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 07:05:48 pm »
Who do you think was involved in 9/11 and why
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2012, 01:13:19 pm »
Who do you think was involved in 9/11 and why

C'mon, don, you know perfectly well that 4,000 Israelis didn't go to work at the WTC that day!
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2012, 05:30:29 pm »
LOL, that's funny  :rotfl: :rotfl:
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2012, 04:25:31 pm »
it was nuts, alright! fukking crazy authoritarians thinking they could ultimately get away with it-not! their version of events is incomplete and not believable. it was NEVER vigorously investigated. too much hurry and secrecy.

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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 01:49:32 pm »
it was nuts, alright! fukking crazy authoritarians thinking they could ultimately get away with it-not! their version of events is incomplete and not believable. it was NEVER vigorously investigated. too much hurry and secrecy.

OK, donni, spill it out!  If Osama didn't do it, who did?
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