Aurora Might Do What Fast & Furious Couldn't

[donni]

8/10/12 NEW! The United States and its comrade-in-arms, Al Qaeda. And other tales of an empire gone mad, by William Blum, The Anti-Empire Report. "Afghanistan in the 1980s and 90s ... Bosnia and Kosovo in the 1990s ... Libya 2011 ... Syria 2012 ... In military conflicts in each of these countries the United States and al Qaeda (or one of its associates) have been on the same side. [...] So, if you want to understand this thing called United States foreign policy ... forget about the War on Terrorism, forget about September 11, forget about democracy, forget about freedom, forget about human rights, forget about religion, forget about the people of Libya and Syria ... keep your eyes on the prize ... Whatever advances American global domination. Whatever suits their goals at the moment. There is no moral factor built into the DNA of US foreign policy."

[donni]

oops! double post-sorry-i removed it. it was worth repeating tho.

[RWE]

and then there are the mines and coal-

http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm

While we are on the subject...donni

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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j081600.html
The military occupation of Trepca solves Soros's two major problems by arrogating de facto ownership of the minesClintonians and their British Laborite first cousins, works in practice. First, you invade a country; then you strip it of its assets, and sell them off to your politically connected friends, such as SorosThe source of Soros's Balkan coup is government power: the armed fist of the State, and not the invisible hand of the market. As the declared enemy of laissez-faire capitalism, which he rails against in several unbearably pretentious books, Soros practices what he preaches: using NATO and the UN as his instruments, he profits from the plundering of a proud nationTrepca was state-owned under Yugoslav suzerainty, but now it will be "privatized" and sold off to Western investors. In this context, it is important to realize just whom we are talking about. . . .

When "driven purely by profit." With $100 million of the US taxpayers' money in his pocket, Soros and his gang are swooping down on the prostrate body of the Serbian nation like vultures feeding on the liver of Prometheus
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http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/howitis.htm
Comparison of two documents, a November 1999 International Crisis Group (ICG) paper on the Trepca mining complex, and a February 2000 article in the Toronto Star by ICG consultant Susan Blaustein, provides an exceptionally clear glimpse into the workings of the "international community".

The International Crisis Group is a high-level think tank supported by financier George Soros. It was set up in 1995, primarily to provide policy guidance to governments involved in the NATO-led reshaping of the Balkans.
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donni, can we find common ground here that the merchant of death whose influence behind Clinton's and Blair's bombs was George Soros? Some of my friends on the right probably won't.

[donni]

and then there are the mines and coal-

http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm

While we are on the subject...donni

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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j081600.html
The military occupation of Trepca solves Soros's two major problems by arrogating de facto ownership of the minesClintonians and their British Laborite first cousins, works in practice. First, you invade a country; then you strip it of its assets, and sell them off to your politically connected friends, such as SorosThe source of Soros's Balkan coup is government power: the armed fist of the State, and not the invisible hand of the market. As the declared enemy of laissez-faire capitalism, which he rails against in several unbearably pretentious books, Soros practices what he preaches: using NATO and the UN as his instruments, he profits from the plundering of a proud nationTrepca was state-owned under Yugoslav suzerainty, but now it will be "privatized" and sold off to Western investors. In this context, it is important to realize just whom we are talking about. . . .

When "driven purely by profit." With $100 million of the US taxpayers' money in his pocket, Soros and his gang are swooping down on the prostrate body of the Serbian nation like vultures feeding on the liver of Prometheus
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http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/howitis.htm
Comparison of two documents, a November 1999 International Crisis Group (ICG) paper on the Trepca mining complex, and a February 2000 article in the Toronto Star by ICG consultant Susan Blaustein, provides an exceptionally clear glimpse into the workings of the "international community".

The International Crisis Group is a high-level think tank supported by financier George Soros. It was set up in 1995, primarily to provide policy guidance to governments involved in the NATO-led reshaping of the Balkans.
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donni, can we find common ground here that the merchant of death whose influence behind Clinton's and Blair's bombs was George Soros? Some of my friends on the right probably won't.

yes, all bombs are profit makers for those who would profit from human misery-i would go further and say almost all the 'trouble' in the world is due to this. profit seekers and their lackey's Love chaos. and they are even willing to bring it home now to profit. there are just too many people in the world for these awful humans. look out!

[donni]

[wbcoleman]

donni, do you believe that U.S. participation in World War II was justified?

[donni]

i think they (elite capitalist industrialists with knowledge by gov't as usual) caused it to happen in the first place. damn them all to hell! so no.

but hitler did need to be stopped and was by the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, AMERICAN PEOPLE, FRENCH< ENGLISH-etc.  -PEOPLE-you catch my drift?

[wbcoleman]

i think they (elite capitalist industrialists with knowledge by gov't as usual) caused it to happen in the first place. damn them all to hell! so no.

but hitler did need to be stopped and was by the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, AMERICAN PEOPLE, FRENCH< ENGLISH-etc.  -PEOPLE-you catch my drift?

Sorry, I don't.  It seems to me that Hitler was stopped by military force, and that only military force could have accomplished the job.

[donni]

yes, but what's that got to do with our gov't being 'justified'?

the people agreed to use their military to stop him because it is the only option the gov'ts gave them,(there are always options other than war) but if they had known who actually caused the mess in the first place and was actively helping to continue the mess in the first place they may have hung them first!

may not have been moral to do so but certainly justified!

[wbcoleman]

yes, but what's that got to do with our gov't being 'justified'?

the people agreed to use their military to stop him because it is the only option the gov'ts gave them, but if they had known who actually caused the mess in the first place they may have hung them first!

Most historians say that HITLER started the war.

[donni]

and what does history say about who and what brought him to the dance in the first place and supported him almost thru till the end, even?

[wbcoleman]

and what does history say about who and what brought him to the dance in the first place and supported him almost thru till the end, even?

donni, why don't you stop beating around the bush and spit it out?

[donni]

ok

capitalist elite industrialists, bankers, and our gov't, and maybe even britain's. all for a buck, control, and to spit in russia's eye.

[wbcoleman]

ok

capitalist elite industrialists, bankers, and our gov't, and maybe even britain's. all for a buck, control, and to spit in russia's eye.

That's a little vague, isn't it?

[Woody]

and what does history say about who and what brought him to the dance in the first place and supported him almost thru till the end, even?

donni, why don't you stop beating around the bush and spit it out?

Haha!  Beat around the Bush.