Aurora Might Do What Fast & Furious Couldn't

[Don Houston]

Ted.  You hit the nail right on the head.  It is a common sense statement, but then again we are always busy trying to blame someone rather than fixing the problem.

We know there are laws that are against this.  We know people still do this.  So what, besides another law, do we do to correct it?

[Ted S]

One thing I'd say we do is teach morality to our kids. Teach them right from wrong.  Have the schools teach the Golden Rule and let parents and churches give them additional guidance. 

Nobody should be forced to go to a church but for the life of me I can't understand why the left is constantly berating Christian religion when it does so much good.  Yes Kentay, Christianity falls short of perfection but it does far more good than harm.

[Don Houston]

As a parent you should teach your children right for wrong.  In school we had the DARE program.  So all those things are being done.  Maybe we need to try a different approach to those old habits??

[kentay]

kentaym,

If we had banned assault riffles, yes it would have been harder to get it.  But again, criminals don't exactly follow the laws now do they?  Look at the prohibition era?  Look at the use of Drugs, look at the other bans we have.  Does a ban on things stop stuff.  Sure it makes it harder to obtain, again one only needs to contact the black market

All I can say to you I hope I never get like you where just throwing up your hands and giving up. I hated to have you  backing me up in a tight fight. Do you think our greatest generation felt like you when they volunteered to fight WW ll. I have never did any type of drugs in my life, why because it was against the law. Had it not been against the law I would have tried it and maybe become addicted. So it stop me and maybe others, because people didn't have a defeated attitude like you and I obeyed the laws I am sure there must be more like me. . kentay

[Don Houston]

Who said I was giving up?  I said laws are not the answer so how do we fix it?  I never said the hell with it. 
You also missed my point about law biding citizens.  Which confuses me as to why you would talk about people obeying the law.  Those that obey the law are not the problem

[kentay]

Who said I was giving up?  I said laws are not the answer so how do we fix it?  I never said the hell with it. 
You also missed my point about law biding citizens.  Which confuses me as to why you would talk about people obeying the law.  Those that obey the law are not the problem

Was the shooter a Law breaker before he shot up the theater and innocent people? How many time in his 24 years had he been in jail or what was his record , do you know? kenaty

[Ted S]

All I can say to you I hope I never get like you where just throwing up your hands and giving up.

It's not giving up Kentay, it's called being realistic.  These laws that you yearn for clearly won't prevent criminals from committing crimes.  Criminals don't obey laws, that's why they're called criminals.

What these laws will do is prevent law abiding citizens from exercising their freedom to do as they choose and the laws make fellas like you feel good.

[Don Houston]

It does not matter what he did before he broke the law.  Look at Drew Peterson, this was a COP who killed two people or more.

Were any of the criminals law breakers before they first committed a crime?

[kentay]

It does not matter what he did before he broke the law.  Look at Drew Peterson, this was a COP who killed two people or more.

Were any of the criminals law breakers before they first committed a crime?

You made my point he wasn't a law breaker and just maybe if it been harder than downloading a song he might at least not had 100 round clips and Assult weapon that jamed or their would have been hundreds shot and or killed because of your Attitude on background checks and tighter controls. kentay

With the ease of downloading a song, anyone with a computer and a credit card can order thousands of bullets and shotgun shells on the Internet, along with tear-gas canisters and speed loaders. They can get the same high-capacity ammunition clips that infantry soldiers use. They can even get bulletproof vests and SWAT helmets. All without fear of a single background check.

No one is paying attention to whether buyers have criminal histories or mental-health records. No one is monitoring bulk sales of ammunition to see who might be building an arsenal. Even after a young man in Colorado buys 6,000 rounds by mail order and uses them to commit mass murder, it is the rare politician who proposes to make the tools of terror slightly harder to obtain.

[Woody]

Timothy McVeigh did not use a gun.


9/11 terrorists did not use guns.


MANY IRA attacks did not involve guns.


The FALN did not use guns.


Norway has very strict gun laws.  What happened there?


Kentay, you are focusing your attention in the wrong direction.  The point is, kentay, those who want to kill will find other means to accomplish it.  you do understand this right?

[wbcoleman]

I stand by ny argument that this individual would have attacked the theater without guns.  He was hellbent on an attack.  The shooter is the killer and solely responsible.

In all honestly, it's hard for me to understand how the Second Amendment protects amassing an arsenal like this one.

Thank You for speaking out WBC, you're one of the few left in a once great party that has attracted most of the religious and racist intolerant verbal bomb throwing white people into your party.  kentay 

kentay, what's the basis of your obsession with race?

[kentay]

I stand by ny argument that this individual would have attacked the theater without guns.  He was hellbent on an attack.  The shooter is the killer and solely responsible.

In all honestly, it's hard for me to understand how the Second Amendment protects amassing an arsenal like this one.

Thank You for speaking out WBC, you're one of the few left in a once great party that has attracted most of the religious and racist intolerant verbal bomb throwing white people into your party.  kentay 

kentay, what's the basis of your obsession with race?

I have no problem with race until you have a party that attracts mostly white people when we are a multi cultural, multi race society. Why is it you see no problem with belonging to a most (95-98 %) white party?  kentay

[wbcoleman]

I stand by ny argument that this individual would have attacked the theater without guns.  He was hellbent on an attack.  The shooter is the killer and solely responsible.

In all honestly, it's hard for me to understand how the Second Amendment protects amassing an arsenal like this one.

Thank You for speaking out WBC, you're one of the few left in a once great party that has attracted most of the religious and racist intolerant verbal bomb throwing white people into your party.  kentay 

kentay, what's the basis of your obsession with race?

I have no problem with race until you have a party that attracts mostly white people when we are a multi cultural, multi race society. Why is it you see no problem with belonging to a most (95-98 %) white party?  kentay

I don't believe the GOP IS 95-98% white.  Of course, that's a different issue than your enthusiasm in injecting race into virtually every discussion.

[Don Houston]

Kentay,

Do you have evidence to support the 95-98%?

[kentay]

I stand by ny argument that this individual would have attacked the theater without guns.  He was hellbent on an attack.  The shooter is the killer and solely responsible.

In all honestly, it's hard for me to understand how the Second Amendment protects amassing an arsenal like this one.

Thank You for speaking out WBC, you're one of the few left in a once great party that has attracted most of the religious and racist intolerant verbal bomb throwing white people into your party.  kentay 

kentay, what's the basis of your obsession with race?

I have no problem with race until you have a party that attracts mostly white people when we are a multi cultural, multi race society. Why is it you see no problem with belonging to a most (95-98 %) white party?  kentay

I don't believe the GOP IS 95-98% white.  Of course, that's a different issue than your enthusiasm in injecting race into virtually every discussion.

In 2000, 93% of the Republican Party was White?

The data reviewed here highlight an essential dilemma the Republicans face as they ponder their future. The Republican Party's constituency is overwhelmingly white -- and the significant majority of those whites are ideologically conservative, while a majority are highly religious, as defined by church attendance. The Democratic Party, on the other hand, has more than three times the percentage of nonwhites among its identifiers as does the GOP. And white Democrats are much more likely to be moderate or liberal than conservative, and are much more likely to be infrequent church attenders rather than frequent church attenders.

Does the Republican Party in essence "stick to the knitting" and cling to its core conservative principles? Or should the Republicans make an effort to expand their base -- among whites who are moderate or less religious, and/or the various nonwhite groups who to this point are largely ignoring the Republican Party in favor of the Democrats? The decision the party makes in response to this question could be pivotal in helping determine its future.

2009 Racial Breakdown of two major Political Parties