Ryan and Partnered On Radical ‘Personhood’ Bill Outlawing Abortion

[Woody]

I am a Christian man and I believe in evolution. kentay

So then you will stop using ceationist teachings (wrongly) to support your views.


Great job.

Why are you so ignorant to what a Creationist is and isn't, I am not a Creationist. I am a Man who try's as best I can to follow Christ teaching.  kentay

Kentay, are you or are you not using creationist thinking and teaching (wrongly) to justify your views on when life begins and ignoring any and all passages found in later passages?


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No I am using my own thinking I think Creationist are Crazy they believe that earth is just a few thousand years old and man walked around with dinosaurs. I  believe in God and evolution and the earth being millions of years old.  You need to look up what creationist believe and stop showing your ignorance on a subject you know nothing about .kentay 

Oooooookkkkkkk.  So you are saying life begins at birth because god breathed life into Adam.  But you say you are not a creationist.


Wow.  I need to do drugs to follow his thinking.

[wbcoleman]

Evangelicals who claim that the Old Testament doesn't count except for the Ten Commandments (not in The Bible at all) don't know that.

WTF??

[wbcoleman]

I'm talking about those aren't no Ten Commandments but what got written in that way in latter day revisions.  That's Exhibit A of why there are a bazillion different "translations" of Bible out there---ongoing changes of agenda.

WTF??

[Woody]

Evangelicals who claim that the Old Testament doesn't count except for the Ten Commandments (not in The Bible at all) don't know that.

WTF??

Yeah, you notice my surprise earlier.  Also check kentay's response to me above.  I think we entered the rabbit hole.

[clistensprechen]

Ever since even colonial times, life has been legally recognized as beginning with the survival of a live birth.  That's why they're called Birth Certificates and Certificates of Live Birth---not Conception Certificates. 

The people who believe we should following the Founding Fathers reject what the Founding Fathers hold to be true in this case.

Hypocritical of the right wingnuts if y'ask ME. 

You sure that is an argument you want to push forward?  How was ol' Ben with the sonogram?  As I told you over and over and over and over keep abortion as it is right now.  But don't ever try to convince me that that heart beating, moving, feeding and kicking body is not a life.

It's Mom's life and it can still be stillborn, and yet your side wants to convict Mom of murder when it's stillborn. Life ain't a separate life of its own until birth is survived.

[wbcoleman]

The Ten Commandments were an invention of Luther and aren't even in the original King James Authorized Bible. There is a truckload more Commandments than just ten.

WTF??

[clistensprechen]

Evangelicals who claim that the Old Testament doesn't count except for the Ten Commandments (not in The Bible at all) don't know that.

WTF??

It's true, but you wouldn't know that.

[clistensprechen]

I'm talking about those aren't no Ten Commandments but what got written in that way in latter day revisions.  That's Exhibit A of why there are a bazillion different "translations" of Bible out there---ongoing changes of agenda.

WTF??

You haven't read many different versions of Bible, have you.  I have.

[Woody]

Cheshire Cat[/b]: Oh, by the way, if you'd really like to know, he went that way.
Alice[/b]: Who did?
Cheshire Cat[/b]: The White Rabbit.
Alice[/b]: He did?
Cheshire Cat[/b]: He did what?
Alice[/b]: Went that way.
Cheshire Cat[/b]: Who did?
Alice[/b]: The White Rabbit.
Cheshire Cat[/b]: What rabbit?
Alice[/b]: But didn't you just say - I mean - Oh, dear.
Cheshire Cat[/b]: Can you stand on your head?
Alice[/b]: Oh!
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[wbcoleman]

I'm talking about those aren't no Ten Commandments but what got written in that way in latter day revisions.  That's Exhibit A of why there are a bazillion different "translations" of Bible out there---ongoing changes of agenda.

WTF??

You haven't read many different versions of Bible, have you.  I have.

I have the original version, and Exodus 20 contains the aseret ha-dibrot, "the ten words".

[RWE]

I am a Christian man and I believe in evolution. kentay

Combining Christianity with Evolution, eh? That's an interesting concept. So, I'm guessing here that in your judgement, God has established a system of "natural selection" or "survival of the fittest" and that any efforts by you or I to aid the less fit is contrary to God's plan. Is that how it works? Diseases like the HIV virus or diabetes would then be something that would eliminate from the gene pool those that were not "fit" for survival. Am I understanding you correctly? So, in your judgement it would be wrong to interfere with the evolutionary process that God has determined to be best for mankind. Helping those less fortunate would be wrong and allowing them to die would be what Jesus would do, thus preventing them from contaminating the gene pool with their inferior traits. That would be Christianlike? I'm not sure if I would agree with you. The evolutionary process seems so meanspirited and anti-Christian. How do the meek inherit the Earth if they die off?

[clistensprechen]

I am a Christian man and I believe in evolution. kentay

Combining Christianity with Evolution, eh? That's an interesting concept. So, I'm guessing here that in your judgement, God has established a system of "natural selection" or "survival of the fittest" and that any efforts by you or I to aid the less fit is contrary to God's plan. Is that how it works? Diseases like the HIV virus or diabetes would then be something that would eliminate from the gene pool those that were not "fit" for survival. Am I understanding you correctly? So, in your judgement it would be wrong to interfere with the evolutionary process that God has determined to be best for mankind. Helping those less fortunate would be wrong and allowing them to die would be what Jesus would do, thus preventing them from contaminating the gene pool with their inferior traits. That would be Christianlike? I'm not sure if I would agree with you. The evolutionary process seems so meanspirited and anti-Christian. How do the meek inherit the Earth if they die off?

Well, a person who has noticed that Bibles contradict themselves wouldn't have a tough time answering those questions especially in view of the news about Aimee, the gal who fell victim to a flesh-eating virus...and considering all the other parasites God engineered into his Intelligent Design (ever hear of the brain-eating protozoa?), God's plan for us is to be food for his pets. We're pet food. The meek that shall inherit the earth are the single-celled meek critters. They were here before the larger critters even if God never mentioned 'em in that book of his, and they'll be here long after bigger critters are gone.

[RWE]

I am a Christian man and I believe in evolution. kentay

Combining Christianity with Evolution, eh? That's an interesting concept. So, I'm guessing here that in your judgement, God has established a system of "natural selection" or "survival of the fittest" and that any efforts by you or I to aid the less fit is contrary to God's plan. Is that how it works? Diseases like the HIV virus or diabetes would then be something that would eliminate from the gene pool those that were not "fit" for survival. Am I understanding you correctly? So, in your judgement it would be wrong to interfere with the evolutionary process that God has determined to be best for mankind. Helping those less fortunate would be wrong and allowing them to die would be what Jesus would do, thus preventing them from contaminating the gene pool with their inferior traits. That would be Christianlike? I'm not sure if I would agree with you. The evolutionary process seems so meanspirited and anti-Christian. How do the meek inherit the Earth if they die off?

Well, a person who has noticed that Bibles contradict themselves wouldn't have a tough time answering those questions especially in view of the news about Aimee, the gal who fell victim to a flesh-eating virus...and considering all the other parasites God engineered into his Intelligent Design (ever hear of the brain-eating protozoa?), God's plan for us is to be food for his pets. We're pet food. The meek that shall inherit the earth are the single-celled meek critters. They were here before the larger critters even if God never mentioned 'em in that book of his, and they'll be here long after bigger critters are gone.

so,...as a person who rejects God and believes in evolution as the mechanism for the success of a species, would you agree that compassion is not a desirable trait for which nature selects? would you side with the eugenicists  who said:
"Fostering the good-for-nothing at the expense of the
good is an extreme cruelty. It is a deliberate storing
up of miseries for future generations. There is no greater
curse to posterity than that of bequeathing them an increasing
population of imbeciles." Margaret Sanger Founder Planned Parenthood

[kentay]

Akin has voted with a majority of his GOP colleagues 95.5 percent of the time in the 112th Congress, tied for the sixth-highest member who has voted in line with his party.

Adam Peck designed the graphic.

[RWE]

I am a Christian man and I believe in evolution. kentay

Combining Christianity with Evolution, eh? That's an interesting concept. So, I'm guessing here that in your judgement, God has established a system of "natural selection" or "survival of the fittest" and that any efforts by you or I to aid the less fit is contrary to God's plan. Is that how it works? Diseases like the HIV virus or diabetes would then be something that would eliminate from the gene pool those that were not "fit" for survival. Am I understanding you correctly? So, in your judgement it would be wrong to interfere with the evolutionary process that God has determined to be best for mankind. Helping those less fortunate would be wrong and allowing them to die would be what Jesus would do, thus preventing them from contaminating the gene pool with their inferior traits. That would be Christianlike? I'm not sure if I would agree with you. The evolutionary process seems so meanspirited and anti-Christian. How do the meek inherit the Earth if they die off?

Kentay, I'm still wondering how this works. If God uses "natural selection" as a mechanism to improve our species, wouldn't abortion be interfering with God's plan? Only Satan would want to interfere with God's plans. You help Satan when you support abortion.