Could someone please help me understand the Republican, GOP logic?

[Gnosisquest]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

[clistensprechen]

I learned a couple of things in English class regarding composition, like what a "loaded question" was and what "begging the question" was.  Your question is both, actually, and for one reason alone: you "beg the question" that GOP logic actually exists.

It remains to be proven.

[RWE]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

[clistensprechen]

...sez the guy who is of a political belief spoonfed to him by some...get ready for it Woody...

CON THINK-TANK.

[Gnosisquest]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

Woody: Thank you for confirming what I suspected and Clara confirmed.

[wbcoleman]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

Woody: Thank you for confirming what I suspected and Clara confirmed.

Both of you are attacking woody before he's shown up to say a word.  Cool.

[RWE]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
That's because it is socialism.
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
That's because, as a sap, you can't understand that tax dollars are used for paying off Obama's cronies.
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!
That's because saps like you believe in global warming even though its been proven false and its proponents proven liars.


Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

[wbcoleman]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

I am fascinated by your expertise on the nature of the World-to-Come.  Wow.

[Woody]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

What is this "we" need stuff?  Didn't you claim you are not n American citizen and did not plan on becoming one?

[kentay]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

  Great post Gnosisquest:
 If only people who say they are Christian knew what it really means to be a Christian. They would know that what you do and how you treat the least among us you are doing to Christ. That is not kentay words but are Christ words and the reason I believe they don't follow his words is they only know what other Preachers, and religious people tell them. For a human to want to turn over what if anything happens to your eternal soul upon your physical death to what another person tells you rather than read it for yourself is like committing spiritual suicide. Here is Gods own words. Kentay

Matthew 25:31  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32  And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35  For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42  For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

[Gnosisquest]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

Woody: Thank you for confirming what I suspected and Clara confirmed.

Both of you are attacking woody before he's shown up to say a word.  Cool.

My mistake, RWE was the person to thank for varifying I must apologize to Woody.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
That's because it is socialism.
Socialist ideas such as Police, Fire, Military and in short all essential services helps a society function better. Only a moron refuse to employ the best ideas due to a label!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
That's because, as a sap, you can't understand that tax dollars are used for paying off Obama's cronies.
When it comes to the cronies being paid it is directly related to the contributors; look at who pays for Obama's campaign and then the campaign of the GOP and reflect on who should be rewarded and need the help!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!
That's because saps like you believe in global warming even though its been proven false and its proponents proven liars.


I'd rather believe the thousands of scientists who work at places such as NASA than the two working for Brothers Kooch when it comes to Global climate change due to human actions!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

I am fascinated by your expertise on the nature of the World-to-Come.  Wow.

It is not really that difficult Coleman; just look at how things happened in the past, thanks though :cheers:

What is this "we" need stuff?  Didn't you claim you are not n American citizen and did not plan on becoming one?

As soon as human rights, standard of living and the crime statistics here are on par with those in Norway I plan on becoming a US citizen. Meanwhile, I am still of the human race.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

  Great post Gnosisquest:
 If only people who say they are Christian knew what it really means to be a Christian. They would know that what you do and how you treat the least among us you are doing to Christ. That is not kentay words but are Christ words and the reason I believe they don't follow his words is they only know what other Preachers, and religious people tell them. For a human to want to turn over what if anything happens to your eternal soul upon your physical death to what another person tells you rather than read it for yourself is like committing spiritual suicide. Here is Gods own words. Kentay

Thanks Kentay: Now have you ever wondered why nations that are more secular and do not claim to follow your God have higher moral and ethical standards than nations claiming to be a "Christian Nation"!

[kentay]

Thanks Kentay: Now have you ever wondered why nations that are more secular and do not claim to follow your God have higher moral and ethical standards than nations claiming to be a "Christian Nation"!

Gnosisquest, I have to be honest because many years ago I was believing how Godless other country were compared to the USA, because I had swallowed all of the religious kool-aid. It was only after I started reading my holy book for myself that I seen what a bunch of hypocrites I was living among.  Just like your words tell where your heart is so do words without works tell more about where you're coming from deep down in your soul. You can never convince me you love a fetus and could care less about the least among us, the born children education and nurturing and trying to control a woman right to control her own body. Nowhere in my holy book does Christ ever try to control any one sinners or believers, because sins is on the individual biases and not by group think about what they think. What everyone should be focused on is yourself and if you get that right, it would change the world. But the hypocrites set themselves up as overseers of truth and never mind their sins yours are always worse. In answers to your question the answers is yes and that is why I started changing because my eyes were opened with what I was seeing in other countries. I could no longer justify my feelings that I was so much better, because our country claim to be a Christian country. but what I was witnessing was my countries hypocrites; and comparing them to other Country citizen and what they believed not only by words but by actions.  I have lived and worked with people all over the world and I really respect and love the Scandinavian, European and some far eastern  countries where there is love for the least among them as they are truly living their religion.  kentay     

[Gnosisquest]

Thanks Kentay: Now have you ever wondered why nations that are more secular and do not claim to follow your God have higher moral and ethical standards than nations claiming to be a "Christian Nation"!

Gnosisquest, I have to be honest because many years ago I was believing how Godless other country were compared to the USA, because I had swallowed all of the religious kool-aid. It was only after I started reading my holy book for myself that I seen what a bunch of hypocrites I was living among.  Just like your words tell where your heart is so do words without works tell more about where you're coming from deep down in your soul. You can never convince me you love a fetus and could care less about the least among us, the born children education and nurturing and trying to control a woman right to control her own body. Nowhere in my holy book does Christ ever try to control any one sinners or believers, because sins is on the individual biases and not by group think about what they think. What everyone should be focused on is yourself and if you get that right, it would change the world. But the hypocrites set themselves up as overseas of truth and never mind their sins yours are always worse. In answers to your question the answers is yes and that is why I started changing because my eyes were opened with what I was seeing in other countries. I could no longer justify my feelings that I was so much better, because our country claim to be a Christian country. but what I was witnessing was my countries hypocrites; and comparing them to other Country citizen and what they believed not only by words but actions.  I have lived and worked with people all over the world and I really respect and love the Scandinavian, European and some far eastern  countries where there is the love for the least among them as they are truly living their religion.  kentay     

:applause:
Being honest when the results of one's mental activity is not as one might wish is perhaps the greatest difficulty any person can confront therefore I applaud you.
Years ago I culled my own adage which goes: "Behind every excuse lies a failure, to justify a failure only compounds its magnitude".
The greatest problem with Christianity is the notion we are "sinners". This creates an immediate excuse.
The fact is most people are not evil; most people are good, yet evil exist.
If 5% of the human population is evil then 95% is good and the focus should be on the good and what we could do to remedy the 5%.
If 5% of the apples in an orchard was rotten you would not condemn the entire orchard but rather avoid contamination.
Since our philosophical attitude is wrong we have no way to isolate ourselves from the contamination. Rotten apples such as Hitler contaminated an entire nation with his rotten policies and caused death and destruction.
Rotten apples such as Brothers Kooch are doing similar things to this nation as are R Money, and the right wing policies.

A proper philosophy would say something like: Any evil or selfish action is an insult to God and an affront to humanity"! Personally I like a saying from the Egyptians, almost 6000 years old which goes: "If there is an afterlife will you spend eternity avoiding those you have wronged in this life?"

Our life span is less than the blink of an eye on a geological time scale. The life is not as important as our action.

[RWE]

My mistake, RWE was the person to thank for varifying I must apologize to Woody.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
That's because it is socialism.
Socialist ideas such as  and in short all essential services helps a society function better. Only a moron refuse to employ the best ideas due to a label!
The example you gave is socialism, duh...you moron.
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
That's because, as a sap, you can't understand that tax dollars are used for paying off Obama's cronies.
When it comes to the cronies being paid it is directly related to the contributors; look at who pays for Obama's campaign and then the campaign of the GOP and reflect on who should be rewarded and need the help!
Hey, moron...Obama has received more money from Wall Street crooks and given more tax money to Wall Street crooks, so only a moron would want to give the bastard more tax dollars to give away to his corporate cronies.
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!
That's because saps like you believe in global warming even though its been proven false and its proponents proven liars.


I'd rather believe the thousands of scientists who work at places such as NASA than the two working for Brothers Kooch when it comes to Global climate change due to human actions!
I'd rather believe the latest NASA weather satellite data that debunks all that crap.

[clistensprechen]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

Woody: Thank you for confirming what I suspected and Clara confirmed.

Both of you are attacking woody before he's shown up to say a word.  Cool.

It's not against any law on this board to make reference to a different thread.