Could someone please help me understand the Republican, GOP logic?

[Ted S]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

If Gnosisquest really wanted to understand the thought process of conservatives he would be asking some of us conservatives for recommendations on books to read and or articles that explain why conservatives think the way we do.  And if he were truly interested he would read them with an open mind.  But he's not asking and he doesn't have an open mind.  His "help me understand" rhetoric is only a facade.

[clistensprechen]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

If Gnosisquest really wanted to understand the thought process of conservatives he would be asking some of us conservatives for recommendations on books to read and or articles that explain why conservatives think the way we do.  And if he were truly interested he would read them with an open mind.  But he's not asking and he doesn't have an open mind.  His "help me understand" rhetoric is only a facade.

So explaining the mental machinations of conservatives can't be done without wading thru the machinations of a propaganda book. Ya, I figured as much.  :cheers:

[Ted S]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

If Gnosisquest really wanted to understand the thought process of conservatives he would be asking some of us conservatives for recommendations on books to read and or articles that explain why conservatives think the way we do.  And if he were truly interested he would read them with an open mind.  But he's not asking and he doesn't have an open mind.  His "help me understand" rhetoric is only a facade.

So explaining the mental machinations of conservatives can't be done without wading thru the machinations of a propaganda book. Ya, I figured as much.  :cheers:

Yes.  If you want to understand something you have to try.

[clistensprechen]

I did try. Numerous times. It defies logic.

[Gnosisquest]

That's because saps like you believe in global warming even though its been proven false and its proponents proven liars.


I'd rather believe the thousands of scientists who work at places such as NASA than the two working for Brothers Kooch when it comes to Global climate change due to human actions!
I'd rather believe the latest NASA weather satellite data that debunks all that crap.

:bull:

Pardon me for saying so but I believe you are full of do-do!
Here is a link where NASA scientists expose what is going on; where is a link showing NASA scientists "debunking" it?
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

[kentay]

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

If Gnosisquest really wanted to understand the thought process of conservatives he would be asking some of us conservatives for recommendations on books to read and or articles that explain why conservatives think the way we do.  And if he were truly interested he would read them with an open mind.  But he's not asking and he doesn't have an open mind.  His "help me understand" rhetoric is only a facade.

Your post speak loudly for what you believe, unless you're saying your posting is lies. Nope I have seen today's conservative works and that's enough for me. It would go against my religion in Christ to ever call myself a conservative. With words you can lie but the works and results of you being a conservative are there for all to see. You remind me of a strawman  kentay

[RWE]

----When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
----

You are a prime example of hypocrisy. Right now as you read this you are increasing the demand for co2 based energy. You frivolously polute the planet so you can goof off on the internet espousing your opinions on politics in a forum of about 8 people.
If you care about global warming you would turn off your computer and never come back to this site again. can't do it can you. You come here and kill polar bears everyday. You talk the talk but live your life just like an uncaring Republican.

[Ted S]

Here is a link where NASA scientists expose what is going on; where is a link showing NASA scientists "debunking" it?
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Personally, I don't deny global warming or climate change if that's what you prefer to call it, but I'm skeptical of the claim.

Group think doesn't exactly have a stellar record.  This was the prevailing wisdom on Iraq's WMDs and as we all painfully know today, the group was wrong:

[wbcoleman]

I am fascinated by your expertise on the nature of the World-to-Come.  Wow.

It is not really that difficult Coleman; just look at how things happened in the past, thanks though :cheers:

Um, apparently you don't realize that "World-to-Come" is Jewish-speak for "life after death"!

[Gnosisquest]

----When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
----

You are a prime example of hypocrisy. Right now as you read this you are increasing the demand for co2 based energy. You frivolously polute the planet so you can goof off on the internet espousing your opinions on politics in a forum of about 8 people.
If you care about global warming you would turn off your computer and never come back to this site again. can't do it can you. You come here and kill polar bears everyday. You talk the talk but live your life just like an uncaring Republican.

What is it you don't understand about the word "Refutation"?

[RWE]

----When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
----

You are a prime example of hypocrisy. Right now as you read this you are increasing the demand for co2 based energy. You frivolously polute the planet so you can goof off on the internet espousing your opinions on politics in a forum of about 8 people.
If you care about global warming you would turn off your computer and never come back to this site again. can't do it can you. You come here and kill polar bears everyday. You talk the talk but live your life just like an uncaring Republican.

What is it you don't understand about the word "Refutation"?

You still here? I guess you don't really believe all that GW crap either.

[Gnosisquest]

----When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
----

You are a prime example of hypocrisy. Right now as you read this you are increasing the demand for co2 based energy. You frivolously polute the planet so you can goof off on the internet espousing your opinions on politics in a forum of about 8 people.
If you care about global warming you would turn off your computer and never come back to this site again. can't do it can you. You come here and kill polar bears everyday. You talk the talk but live your life just like an uncaring Republican.

What is it you don't understand about the word "Refutation"?

You still here? I guess you don't really believe all that GW crap either.

What I don't believe is the crap you are peddling!
The situation is far worse than imagined and global weather change is only a small portion of the problem.
The irresponsible attitude of the religious right is to puke at. It seems they feel some deity will take care of it all when it is obvious how the Judaic legends came about. There is no reason to believe there is anything other than plagiarism and wishful thinking to the legends of the Bible. We can do something about human survival on this planet and we are; the problem is that what we do is negative.

[RWE]

What I don't believe is the crap you are peddling!
The situation is far worse than imagined and global weather change is only a small portion of the problem.
The irresponsible attitude of the religious right is to puke at. It seems they feel some deity will take care of it all when it is obvious how the Judaic legends came about. There is no reason to believe there is anything other than plagiarism and wishful thinking to the legends of the Bible. We can do something about human survival on this planet and we are; the problem is that what we do is negative.

What are you babbling about? What does your irresponsible attitude have to do with the religious right? You're not doing **** about human survival on the planet. You're part of the problem. Now set an example for us. Stop your frivolous energy consumption and get off the internet. Every minute you spend here you are adding to runaway greenhouse effect and melting the arctic ice. Your action just might stop us from getting to the tipping point. But noooo...Your lifestyle is too much fun for you. You have to run all over the internet telling everyone their religious beliefs are all wrong and how everyone needs to think like you because you are so enlightened. 

[Woody]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

Woody: Thank you for confirming what I suspected and Clara confirmed.

Both of you are attacking woody before he's shown up to say a word.  Cool.

My mistake, RWE was the person to thank for varifying I must apologize to Woody.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
That's because it is socialism.
Socialist ideas such as Police, Fire, Military and in short all essential services helps a society function better. Only a moron refuse to employ the best ideas due to a label!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
That's because, as a sap, you can't understand that tax dollars are used for paying off Obama's cronies.
When it comes to the cronies being paid it is directly related to the contributors; look at who pays for Obama's campaign and then the campaign of the GOP and reflect on who should be rewarded and need the help!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!
That's because saps like you believe in global warming even though its been proven false and its proponents proven liars.


I'd rather believe the thousands of scientists who work at places such as NASA than the two working for Brothers Kooch when it comes to Global climate change due to human actions!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

I am fascinated by your expertise on the nature of the World-to-Come.  Wow.

It is not really that difficult Coleman; just look at how things happened in the past, thanks though :cheers:

What is this "we" need stuff?  Didn't you claim you are not n American citizen and did not plan on becoming one?

As soon as human rights, standard of living and the crime statistics here are on par with those in Norway I plan on becoming a US citizen. Meanwhile, I am still of the human race.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

  Great post Gnosisquest:
 If only people who say they are Christian knew what it really means to be a Christian. They would know that what you do and how you treat the least among us you are doing to Christ. That is not kentay words but are Christ words and the reason I believe they don't follow his words is they only know what other Preachers, and religious people tell them. For a human to want to turn over what if anything happens to your eternal soul upon your physical death to what another person tells you rather than read it for yourself is like committing spiritual suicide. Here is Gods own words. Kentay

Thanks Kentay: Now have you ever wondered why nations that are more secular and do not claim to follow your God have higher moral and ethical standards than nations claiming to be a "Christian Nation"!

As I stated, there is no "we" that involves YOU in the OP.  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen.  Until than you are a visitor to this country and are welcome to leave at any time.  It would be like me going to your house and telling you how to live, maintain your lawn, raise your kids, and what to watch on TV.  Not the actions of a guest

[Gnosisquest]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

Woody: Thank you for confirming what I suspected and Clara confirmed.

Both of you are attacking woody before he's shown up to say a word.  Cool.

My mistake, RWE was the person to thank for varifying I must apologize to Woody.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
That's because it is socialism.
Socialist ideas such as Police, Fire, Military and in short all essential services helps a society function better. Only a moron refuse to employ the best ideas due to a label!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
That's because, as a sap, you can't understand that tax dollars are used for paying off Obama's cronies.
When it comes to the cronies being paid it is directly related to the contributors; look at who pays for Obama's campaign and then the campaign of the GOP and reflect on who should be rewarded and need the help!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!
That's because saps like you believe in global warming even though its been proven false and its proponents proven liars.


I'd rather believe the thousands of scientists who work at places such as NASA than the two working for Brothers Kooch when it comes to Global climate change due to human actions!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

I am fascinated by your expertise on the nature of the World-to-Come.  Wow.

It is not really that difficult Coleman; just look at how things happened in the past, thanks though :cheers:

What is this "we" need stuff?  Didn't you claim you are not n American citizen and did not plan on becoming one?

As soon as human rights, standard of living and the crime statistics here are on par with those in Norway I plan on becoming a US citizen. Meanwhile, I am still of the human race.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

  Great post Gnosisquest:
 If only people who say they are Christian knew what it really means to be a Christian. They would know that what you do and how you treat the least among us you are doing to Christ. That is not kentay words but are Christ words and the reason I believe they don't follow his words is they only know what other Preachers, and religious people tell them. For a human to want to turn over what if anything happens to your eternal soul upon your physical death to what another person tells you rather than read it for yourself is like committing spiritual suicide. Here is Gods own words. Kentay

Thanks Kentay: Now have you ever wondered why nations that are more secular and do not claim to follow your God have higher moral and ethical standards than nations claiming to be a "Christian Nation"!

As I stated, there is no "we" that involves YOU in the OP.  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen.  Until than you are a visitor to this country and are welcome to leave at any time.  It would be like me going to your house and telling you how to live, maintain your lawn, raise your kids, and what to watch on TV.  Not the actions of a guest

Trust me; I wouldn't bother telling you, if you had a clue!