Could someone please help me understand the Republican, GOP logic?

[Woody]

Boy, the US Communist/Democrat party sure has you two brainwashed.

Woody: Thank you for confirming what I suspected and Clara confirmed.

Both of you are attacking woody before he's shown up to say a word.  Cool.

My mistake, RWE was the person to thank for varifying I must apologize to Woody.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
That's because it is socialism.
Socialist ideas such as Police, Fire, Military and in short all essential services helps a society function better. Only a moron refuse to employ the best ideas due to a label!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
That's because, as a sap, you can't understand that tax dollars are used for paying off Obama's cronies.
When it comes to the cronies being paid it is directly related to the contributors; look at who pays for Obama's campaign and then the campaign of the GOP and reflect on who should be rewarded and need the help!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!
That's because saps like you believe in global warming even though its been proven false and its proponents proven liars.


I'd rather believe the thousands of scientists who work at places such as NASA than the two working for Brothers Kooch when it comes to Global climate change due to human actions!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

I am fascinated by your expertise on the nature of the World-to-Come.  Wow.

It is not really that difficult Coleman; just look at how things happened in the past, thanks though :cheers:

What is this "we" need stuff?  Didn't you claim you are not n American citizen and did not plan on becoming one?

As soon as human rights, standard of living and the crime statistics here are on par with those in Norway I plan on becoming a US citizen. Meanwhile, I am still of the human race.

For the life of me I just don't understand these people and I need some help.

Whenever I mention we need single payer medicare type medicine system for all ages, without the insurance companies, so we can take care of all citizens they holler "Socialism"!
When I say we need to increase taxes so we can take care of the person who gets sick or has an accident, the widow and the orphan they cry: "Let them take care of themselves I'm not spending my hard earned money! Taxation is theft!
When I talk about Government regulations and say we need to take care of the environment etc; they cry: "It is not proven, we want freedom we're not going to live in a nanny state"!

Then every evening before they go to bed they say a prayer to some creator, so that after this life is over they may get to go to a place where none have any say, there is no money, the widow and orphan is taken care of, and everyone is equal.

Do you understand them?

  Great post Gnosisquest:
 If only people who say they are Christian knew what it really means to be a Christian. They would know that what you do and how you treat the least among us you are doing to Christ. That is not kentay words but are Christ words and the reason I believe they don't follow his words is they only know what other Preachers, and religious people tell them. For a human to want to turn over what if anything happens to your eternal soul upon your physical death to what another person tells you rather than read it for yourself is like committing spiritual suicide. Here is Gods own words. Kentay

Thanks Kentay: Now have you ever wondered why nations that are more secular and do not claim to follow your God have higher moral and ethical standards than nations claiming to be a "Christian Nation"!

As I stated, there is no "we" that involves YOU in the OP.  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen.  Until than you are a visitor to this country and are welcome to leave at any time.  It would be like me going to your house and telling you how to live, maintain your lawn, raise your kids, and what to watch on TV.  Not the actions of a guest

Trust me; I wouldn't bother telling you, if you had a clue!

No Need to be so negative dude. If you are what you claim to be, and your slip up in the OP with your continued use of the word "we" raises questions, I welcome you to the country.  This is a melting pot.  It is not Norway.  It is not England, china, or France.  It is a America.  I welcome you, hope you assimilate, become part of OUR culture, become up to date on issues, and work to change things as a citizen.  But don't expect us to change for you, or to become Norway. 

[Woody]

PS.  You want to know about GOP logic as it applies to America, watch Ann Romney's speech. 

[RWE]

...  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen....

Hey man, don't encourage him. He ain't welcome here if all he wants to do is spread the disease of collectivist tyranny.

[clistensprechen]

PS.  You want to know about GOP logic as it applies to America, watch Ann Romney's speech.

Not nearly as good an example as Sarah Palin, though.  She's postergirl for GOP logic. And such as.

[clistensprechen]

...  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen....

Hey man, don't encourage him. He ain't welcome here if all he wants to do is spread the disease of collectivist tyranny.

Except that he is. You're not the dictator of everybody and you're certainly not government dictator.

[RWE]

...  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen....

Hey man, don't encourage him. He ain't welcome here if all he wants to do is spread the disease of collectivist tyranny.

Except that he is. You're not the dictator of everybody and you're certainly not government dictator.

You're right, I'm not Obama. And I was speaking for myself. I don't welcome socialist leaches to this country.

[clistensprechen]

Then move to Putin's Russia.

[Woody]

PS.  You want to know about GOP logic as it applies to America, watch Ann Romney's speech.

Not nearly as good an example as Sarah Palin, though.  She's postergirl for GOP logic. And such as.

Joe Biden anyone?  Who did YOU vote for?  On the Palin issue you, the left, and the dems have lost ALL credibility. 


LMAO!

[clistensprechen]

And you, RWE, do not hold an American position.  THIS is the American position:

[Gnosisquest]

...  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen....

Hey man, don't encourage him. He ain't welcome here if all he wants to do is spread the disease of collectivist tyranny.

Except that he is. You're not the dictator of everybody and you're certainly not government dictator.

OK; now I feel that since I have booth children and grandchildren in this country I have as much right to speak as anyone, like it or not.
The US was the greatest country in the world for many years due to the fact it took all the best from the people of all different country when it was in its infancy!
Now the US is like a teen that has all the answers and is ruining what it once had.
Wisdom is not having all the answers; wisdom is collecting answers that work regardless of where they come from. Those that reject answers because they sound like socialist ideas or UN-American ideas are the fools.
I left Norway due to the cold; I stay here for the sunshine and because I have family here. If you disagree with what I say, that is your problem, not mine! That some idiot believe a person who want to have a chance and all people should get medical attention when required is a social leech I have news for you: I am willing to spend a portion of my work-day to help others get a more satisfying life; I am not in this just for myself and I have never used the "system" like the right wingers do when they go to the emergency ward to get free medical since they don't want to buy insurance, I paid for mine.

[clistensprechen]

PS.  You want to know about GOP logic as it applies to America, watch Ann Romney's speech.

Not nearly as good an example as Sarah Palin, though.  She's postergirl for GOP logic. And such as.

Joe Biden anyone?  Who did YOU vote for?  On the Palin issue you, the left, and the dems have lost ALL credibility. 


LMAO!

So you agree with the left that Palin really isn't all that great. Got it. 

[Woody]

PS.  You want to know about GOP logic as it applies to America, watch Ann Romney's speech.

Not nearly as good an example as Sarah Palin, though.  She's postergirl for GOP logic. And such as.

Joe Biden anyone?  Who did YOU vote for?  On the Palin issue you, the left, and the dems have lost ALL credibility. 


LMAO!

So you agree with the left that Palin really isn't all that great. Got it. 

This ain't a Palin discussion.  I will be happy to go down your diversionary fork in the road on another thread if you like.  I will even answer your question there.

[RWE]

The US was the greatest country in the world for many years due to the fact it took all the best from the people of all different country when it was in its infancy!

Yeah, that was back when we were a predominantly religious nation and atheism was unheard of.

[Woody]

...  You are more than welcome to do what millions before you have done and become a citizen....

Hey man, don't encourage him. He ain't welcome here if all he wants to do is spread the disease of collectivist tyranny.

Except that he is. You're not the dictator of everybody and you're certainly not government dictator.

OK; now I feel that since I have booth children and grandchildren in this country I have as much right to speak as anyone, like it or not.
The US was the greatest country in the world for many years due to the fact it took all the best from the people of all different country when it was in its infancy!
Now the US is like a teen that has all the answers and is ruining what it once had.
Wisdom is not having all the answers; wisdom is collecting answers that work regardless of where they come from. Those that reject answers because they sound like socialist ideas or UN-American ideas are the fools.
I left Norway due to the cold; I stay here for the sunshine and because I have family here. If you disagree with what I say, that is your problem, not mine! That some idiot believe a person who want to have a chance and all people should get medical attention when required is a social leech I have news for you: I am willing to spend a portion of my work-day to help others get a more satisfying life; I am not in this just for myself and I have never used the "system" like the right wingers do when they go to the emergency ward to get free medical since they don't want to buy insurance, I paid for mine.

For the record, and understanding that English is not your first language, I never said you couldn't or shouldn't speak.  I said that your use of "we" in the opening post does not apply to YOU.


if you care that much about your family put your money where your mouth is, become a citizen, and work to change the system.  That is what America is all about, something that you have not realized yet.

[Gnosisquest]

The US was the greatest country in the world for many years due to the fact it took all the best from the people of all different country when it was in its infancy!

Yeah, that was back when we were a predominantly religious nation and atheism was unheard of.

:bull: No; it was when you accepted facts, before you changed knowledge to suit your preconceptions.
It is more than a coincident that the nations that do best are also the most secular nations. Religion is based on superstition and wishful thinking and that is no way to run a country! The reason people moved to the US to begin with was because they could get killed in Europe at the time for not adhering to religious views. The distortions made by the Church now a days is an attestation to the devastation it cause.