Hey, Ken...

[Woody]

Everybody does including you.

If you can't see the difference between a kentay type and others, to include you, you must be blind.  Here you gotta guy who on one thread uses a creationist argument to support abortion and on another berates creationists for believing in bullshit. 

[clistensprechen]

Everybody does including you.

If you can't see the difference between a kentay type and others, to include you, you must be blind.  Here you gotta guy who on one thread uses a creationist argument to support abortion and on another berates creationists for believing in bullshit.

So? One argument is for one type of audience, the other for a different type of audience. Nothing wrong with making both types of arguments, nor is it indicative of personal beliefs one way or the other.  Even I will point-counterpoint an issue using different argument positions. This is nothing new.

[Woody]

Everybody does including you.

If you can't see the difference between a kentay type and others, to include you, you must be blind.  Here you gotta guy who on one thread uses a creationist argument to support abortion and on another berates creationists for believing in bullshit.

So? One argument is for one type of audience, the other for a different type of audience. Nothing wrong with making both types of arguments, nor is it indicative of personal beliefs one way or the other.  Even I will point-counterpoint an issue using different argument positions. This is nothing new.

 :bull:


Cool.  the next time kentay accuses someone of hypocrisy just repost that post of yours.

[wbcoleman]

Everybody does including you.

If you can't see the difference between a kentay type and others, to include you, you must be blind.  Here you gotta guy who on one thread uses a creationist argument to support abortion and on another berates creationists for believing in bullshit.

So? One argument is for one type of audience, the other for a different type of audience. Nothing wrong with making both types of arguments, nor is it indicative of personal beliefs one way or the other.  Even I will point-counterpoint an issue using different argument positions. This is nothing new.

Wait a minute, you call this place HYPERCRITES, not HYPOCRITES!!!

[clistensprechen]

Exactly.  :cheers:

[MichaelH]

Everybody twists faith to suit agenda convenience pursuant to either what they've been taught by others or faction religiopolitical view.  That's why we have a bazillion different denominations.

That's also Exhibit A evidence why they're all false.  That's one of a number of reasons I'm an atheist.

Overgeneralized, Clara.   Your "everybody" fans the air way too much.  There are lots of denominations, to be sure, but the overriding faith is pretty steady.  In other words, the important issues have essential agreement.   There are -- of course -- outfits like Jim Jones' cult, but using that as a reason to eschew Christianity is pretty poor (imho).

Luv ya anyway.   

[clistensprechen]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

[Woody]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

Clara, in reference to what was being posted you created a strawman. 

[clistensprechen]

Sez you, of course.  :wuv:

[MichaelH]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

I understand your confusion, Clara.  I even (kind of) understand your use of "bazillion".  It represents frustration and definite LACK OF UNDERSTANDING of Christianity in general.  There are a very small number of "mainstay" items that define Christianity.  They include the Virgin Birth of Jesus, the Resurrection, and the appearance of Jesus to his followers after the Resurrection.  The New Testament is words, strung together by men.  Thus certain passages can be interpreted slightly differently.  An example is the Sabbath.  Seventh-Day Adventists interpret that to mean Saturday, and they're quite emphatic and insistent about it.  I don't happen to subscribe to that, but I still accept Adventists as my brothers and sisters in the faith. So much for differences, Clara.  Even Jews are totally acceptable to me as men and women who worship the same God.  Are there "faiths" that I don't recognize?  Sure there are.  Islam is a fine example.  There are others as well...Shintoism ...Buddhism...all seeking to recognize/discover a connection of mankind to a higher plane of existence.  If you do believe that humans just accidentally came into existence ...pond scum...itsy bitsy atoms bumping into one another...that's your privilege.  I don't happen to believe that.  Which "religion" is right?  We'll each have to live with our own convictions on that one, won't we?
Peace, Clara. 

[wbcoleman]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

I understand your confusion, Clara.  I even (kind of) understand your use of "bazillion".  It represents frustration and definite LACK OF UNDERSTANDING of Christianity in general.  There are a very small number of "mainstay" items that define Christianity.  They include the Virgin Birth of Jesus, the Resurrection, and the appearance of Jesus to his followers after the Resurrection.  The New Testament is words, strung together by men.  Thus certain passages can be interpreted slightly differently.  An example is the Sabbath.  Seventh-Day Adventists interpret that to mean Saturday, and they're quite emphatic and insistent about it.  I don't happen to subscribe to that, but I still accept Adventists as my brothers and sisters in the faith. So much for differences, Clara.  Even Jews are totally acceptable to me as men and women who worship the same God.  Are there "faiths" that I don't recognize?  Sure there are.  Islam is a fine example.  There are others as well...Shintoism ...Buddhism...all seeking to recognize/discover a connection of mankind to a higher plane of existence.  If you do believe that humans just accidentally came into existence ...pond scum...itsy bitsy atoms bumping into one another...that's your privilege.  I don't happen to believe that.  Which "religion" is right?  We'll each have to live with our own convictions on that one, won't we?
Peace, Clara.

mike, this is off-topic but I'm curious.  Why do you believe the sabbath is the first day of the week rather than the seventh?

[clistensprechen]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

I understand your confusion, Clara.  I even (kind of) understand your use of "bazillion".  It represents frustration and definite LACK OF UNDERSTANDING of Christianity in general.  There are a very small number of "mainstay" items that define Christianity.  They include the Virgin Birth of Jesus, the Resurrection, and the appearance of Jesus to his followers after the Resurrection.  The New Testament is words, strung together by men.  Thus certain passages can be interpreted slightly differently.  An example is the Sabbath.  Seventh-Day Adventists interpret that to mean Saturday, and they're quite emphatic and insistent about it.  I don't happen to subscribe to that, but I still accept Adventists as my brothers and sisters in the faith. So much for differences, Clara.  Even Jews are totally acceptable to me as men and women who worship the same God.  Are there "faiths" that I don't recognize?  Sure there are.  Islam is a fine example.  There are others as well...Shintoism ...Buddhism...all seeking to recognize/discover a connection of mankind to a higher plane of existence.  If you do believe that humans just accidentally came into existence ...pond scum...itsy bitsy atoms bumping into one another...that's your privilege.  I don't happen to believe that.  Which "religion" is right?  We'll each have to live with our own convictions on that one, won't we?
Peace, Clara.

mike, this is off-topic but I'm curious.  Why do you believe the sabbath is the first day of the week rather than the seventh?

The Romans ordained it to be so. You wanna know why the Romans ordained it so?  I got your facts right here.

[wbcoleman]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

I understand your confusion, Clara.  I even (kind of) understand your use of "bazillion".  It represents frustration and definite LACK OF UNDERSTANDING of Christianity in general.  There are a very small number of "mainstay" items that define Christianity.  They include the Virgin Birth of Jesus, the Resurrection, and the appearance of Jesus to his followers after the Resurrection.  The New Testament is words, strung together by men.  Thus certain passages can be interpreted slightly differently.  An example is the Sabbath.  Seventh-Day Adventists interpret that to mean Saturday, and they're quite emphatic and insistent about it.  I don't happen to subscribe to that, but I still accept Adventists as my brothers and sisters in the faith. So much for differences, Clara.  Even Jews are totally acceptable to me as men and women who worship the same God.  Are there "faiths" that I don't recognize?  Sure there are.  Islam is a fine example.  There are others as well...Shintoism ...Buddhism...all seeking to recognize/discover a connection of mankind to a higher plane of existence.  If you do believe that humans just accidentally came into existence ...pond scum...itsy bitsy atoms bumping into one another...that's your privilege.  I don't happen to believe that.  Which "religion" is right?  We'll each have to live with our own convictions on that one, won't we?
Peace, Clara.

mike, this is off-topic but I'm curious.  Why do you believe the sabbath is the first day of the week rather than the seventh?

The Romans ordained it to be so. You wanna know why the Romans ordained it so?  I got your facts right here.

The ROMANS??

[clistensprechen]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

I understand your confusion, Clara.  I even (kind of) understand your use of "bazillion".  It represents frustration and definite LACK OF UNDERSTANDING of Christianity in general.  There are a very small number of "mainstay" items that define Christianity.  They include the Virgin Birth of Jesus, the Resurrection, and the appearance of Jesus to his followers after the Resurrection.  The New Testament is words, strung together by men.  Thus certain passages can be interpreted slightly differently.  An example is the Sabbath.  Seventh-Day Adventists interpret that to mean Saturday, and they're quite emphatic and insistent about it.  I don't happen to subscribe to that, but I still accept Adventists as my brothers and sisters in the faith. So much for differences, Clara.  Even Jews are totally acceptable to me as men and women who worship the same God.  Are there "faiths" that I don't recognize?  Sure there are.  Islam is a fine example.  There are others as well...Shintoism ...Buddhism...all seeking to recognize/discover a connection of mankind to a higher plane of existence.  If you do believe that humans just accidentally came into existence ...pond scum...itsy bitsy atoms bumping into one another...that's your privilege.  I don't happen to believe that.  Which "religion" is right?  We'll each have to live with our own convictions on that one, won't we?
Peace, Clara.

mike, this is off-topic but I'm curious.  Why do you believe the sabbath is the first day of the week rather than the seventh?

The Romans ordained it to be so. You wanna know why the Romans ordained it so?  I got your facts right here.

The ROMANS??

Take a really wild guess at where our calendar comes from.

[wbcoleman]

Good to know, Mike. Considering that there's theoretically only one God and actually a bazillion different religions, then theoretically God instituted all the religions for the specific purpose of warring with each other claiming to be the one true religion while all others are false.  Some God, that. 

And thus the generalization is apt. Any other characterization is not accurate.

I understand your confusion, Clara.  I even (kind of) understand your use of "bazillion".  It represents frustration and definite LACK OF UNDERSTANDING of Christianity in general.  There are a very small number of "mainstay" items that define Christianity.  They include the Virgin Birth of Jesus, the Resurrection, and the appearance of Jesus to his followers after the Resurrection.  The New Testament is words, strung together by men.  Thus certain passages can be interpreted slightly differently.  An example is the Sabbath.  Seventh-Day Adventists interpret that to mean Saturday, and they're quite emphatic and insistent about it.  I don't happen to subscribe to that, but I still accept Adventists as my brothers and sisters in the faith. So much for differences, Clara.  Even Jews are totally acceptable to me as men and women who worship the same God.  Are there "faiths" that I don't recognize?  Sure there are.  Islam is a fine example.  There are others as well...Shintoism ...Buddhism...all seeking to recognize/discover a connection of mankind to a higher plane of existence.  If you do believe that humans just accidentally came into existence ...pond scum...itsy bitsy atoms bumping into one another...that's your privilege.  I don't happen to believe that.  Which "religion" is right?  We'll each have to live with our own convictions on that one, won't we?
Peace, Clara.

mike, this is off-topic but I'm curious.  Why do you believe the sabbath is the first day of the week rather than the seventh?

The Romans ordained it to be so. You wanna know why the Romans ordained it so?  I got your facts right here.

The ROMANS??

Take a really wild guess at where our calendar comes from.

That's irrelevant.  Our calendar says Sunday is the first day of the week, not the seventh.