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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2012, 10:41:45 am »
Now let me get this straight...you're all in favor of one part of the First Amendment (freedom of speech) and against another part of the First Amendment (freedom of religion--as in the predominant religion of the country).  Tsk tsk tsk.
Maybe if you did a month in rehab you might be able to get something straight.
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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2012, 10:43:57 am »
You first.



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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2012, 10:44:44 am »
Now let me get this straight...you're all in favor of one part of the First Amendment (freedom of speech) and against another part of the First Amendment (freedom of religion--as in the predominant religion of the country).  Tsk tsk tsk.
Maybe if you did a month in rehab you might be able to get something straight.

Damn!  One of us needs to retrieve that hookah!
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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2012, 05:02:13 pm »
When hate groups in our country stir up others around the world because of culture, race or religion it affects all of us. The death of any American that is caused by our hate and bigotry must also be held responsible as those who killed an American. Unless we find away to stop this kind of hate without losing our freedoms, we will be doomed to suffer many more consequences of their actions. To me it's like yelling fire in a crowed theater and there is no fire and people die trying to get out. I think any church or group that spews this kind of hate and bigotry we at least should take away any of their tax advantages because I as a citizen do not want my taxes going to people who promote hate and bigotry. kentay 


Interfaith group condemns plans to burn Quran on 9/11, denounces 'bigotry'
 
Afghans burn an effigy of Dove World Outreach Center's pastor Terry Jones during a demonstration against the United States in Kabul, Afghanistan on Monday to protest his plans to burn Qurans on 9/11.
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An interfaith summit of Christian, Jewish and Muslim religious leaders today responded to plans by a Florida church to burn Qurans on 9/11 by condemning "outright bigotry" that they said undermined religious freedom in America.

Terry Jones, pastor of the Dove World Outreach Center, in Gainesville, Fla., that is planning the event, says he will go ahead with it, despite a warning from Gen. David Petraeus, top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, that it could endanger U.S. troops.
 


"We are definitely weighing the situation," Terry Jones, pastor of the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Fla., tells CNN today. "We are weighing the thing we are about to do, what it possibly could cause, what is our actual message, what we are trying to get across. How important is that now."

Petraeus said in his statement the actions by the 50-member church "could endanger troops, and it could endanger the overall effort."

Update at 1:12 p.m. ET: An interfaith summit of Christian, Jewish and Muslim religious leaders issued a joint statement today denouncing "outright bigotry directed against America's Muslim community."

"To attack any religion in the United States is to do violence to the religious freedom of all America," the statement said.
The group specifically condemned the plan to burn Qurans as a "particularly egregious offense that demands the strongest possible condemnation of all who value civility in public life and seek to honor the memory of those who lost their lives on 9/11."

"Silence is not an option," the statement said. "Only by taking this stand can spiritual leaders fulfill the highest callings of our respective faiths."

Our colleagues at Faith & Reason have details on the interfaith gathering.

Update at 12:52 p.m. ET: Endorsing Petraeus' comments, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said today that "it puts our troops in harm's way."

Update at 12:27 p.m. ET: Jones tells the AP in an interview that he has received more than 100 death threats and has started wearing a .40-caliber pistol strapped to his hip.

Update at 12:07 p.m. ET: FBI agents have visited the church to talk about their concerns for Jones' safety, as multiple Facebook pages with thousands of members have popped up hailing him as either a hero or a dangerous pariah, the AP reports.

Earlier posting: Gainesville police plan to set up a checkpoint at streets around the church on Saturday to check driver's licenses and maintain a heightened police presence, The Gainesville Sun reports. The three-hour protest is scheduled for 6 p.m. ET

But Jones says the protest aimed at radical Islam is still on. "Once in awhile, you see that in the Bible, there are instances where enough is enough and you stand up," Jones tells CNN.

This comes a day after someone in Gainesville scrawled the word "Nazis" on a sign erected near an Islamic center announcing "International Burn A Koran Day," The Sun reports.

The newspaper says a man has turned himself in for the act, but police are trying to contact the owner of the property before pressing charges.

At a protest Monday in Kabul, several hundred Afghans rallied outside a Kabul mosque, burning American flags and an effigy of Dove World's pastor and chanting "death to America."

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IMHO Afghanis who burn Terry Jones in effigy are completely within their rights and are responding to an exercise of free speech with another exercise of free speech.  That is entirely proper and desirable.  But attacking the U.S. embassy, destroying property and causing bodily harm to U.S. personnel, that's something else entirely.  I am flummoxed that anyone should disagree with me on this.


I was astonished at the responses to the official statement.  I wasn't hot headed, just extremely surprised, flabbergasted, and amazed anyone would think that was an appropriate response. 


I wonder how they feel now that te WH has distanced themselves from the release?



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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2012, 06:23:29 pm »
I was astonished at the responses to the official statement.  I wasn't hot headed, just extremely surprised, flabbergasted, and amazed anyone would think that was an appropriate response. 

I wonder how they feel now that te WH has distanced themselves from the release?

And now it turns out that the video may have just been a cover for a planned attack timed to coincide with 9/11!
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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2012, 06:28:41 pm »
I was astonished at the responses to the official statement.  I wasn't hot headed, just extremely surprised, flabbergasted, and amazed anyone would think that was an appropriate response. 

I wonder how they feel now that te WH has distanced themselves from the release?

And now it turns out that the video may have just been a cover for a planned attack timed to coincide with 9/11!


Did you see what I posted on the other thread, the tipping point thread, concerning what they were chanting?



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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2012, 06:33:47 pm »
I was astonished at the responses to the official statement.  I wasn't hot headed, just extremely surprised, flabbergasted, and amazed anyone would think that was an appropriate response. 

I wonder how they feel now that te WH has distanced themselves from the release?

And now it turns out that the video may have just been a cover for a planned attack timed to coincide with 9/11!

Did you see what I posted on the other thread, the tipping point thread, concerning what they were chanting?

Yeah.

So why does Romney appear to be on the political defensive today?
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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2012, 07:26:25 pm »
I was astonished at the responses to the official statement.  I wasn't hot headed, just extremely surprised, flabbergasted, and amazed anyone would think that was an appropriate response. 

I wonder how they feel now that te WH has distanced themselves from the release?

And now it turns out that the video may have just been a cover for a planned attack timed to coincide with 9/11!

Did you see what I posted on the other thread, the tipping point thread, concerning what they were chanting?

Yeah.

So why does Romney appear to be on the political defensive today?
...and defensive regarding his own wing of his own party, too. Chalk it up to premature ejaculation, with a dash of partisan prescience that Jeb Bush posessed when he called in to contradict election pollsters in the 2000 election. He had, after all, vowed to "deliver" Florida to the GOP.  I've also heard scuttlebutt that co-ordinating the video promo with 9/11 events was intended to generate a situation similar to Jimmy Carter's Iran hostage situation via which Romney could swoop in and save Americans just like Reagan did with his Iran-Contra deal with the terrorists.

But Loose Lips Romney spilt his beans too soon.  On the other hand, this is just another cockamamie conspiracy theory and Romney's just as naturally prescient as Jeb Bush.  God tells him stuff before it happens.

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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2012, 07:41:44 pm »
You can tell when the Obamabots sense trouble because they keep going back in to e I stead of following the Obama edict of Forward!  This is the second 2000 election reference I have seen today.  One thing is sure.  You and kentay certainly stick to the script. 


What next?  Tying this to Reagan/North/Iran Contra?  Cheney/Rumsfeld/Hussein? Walter O'Malley moving the dodgers to LA and bringing the Giants with him?   Anything to distract from Obama's dismal record.
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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2012, 07:45:19 pm »
You can tell when the Obamabots sense trouble because they keep going back in to e I stead of following the Obama edict of Forward!  This is the second 2000 election reference I have seen today.  One thing is sure.  You and kentay certainly stick to the script. 


What next?  Tying this to Reagan/North/Iran Contra?  Cheney/Rumsfeld/Hussein? Walter O'Malley moving the dodgers to LA and bringing the Giants with him?   Anything to distract from Obama's dismal record.

Nope. Just to draw attention to the fact that Romney's about the business of re-establishing the Dubya era working with Dubya's Architect.  How can we forget the past when Romney keeps enlisting it?

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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2012, 07:52:45 pm »
You can tell when the Obamabots sense trouble because they keep going back in to e I stead of following the Obama edict of Forward!  This is the second 2000 election reference I have seen today.  One thing is sure.  You and kentay certainly stick to the script. 


What next?  Tying this to Reagan/North/Iran Contra?  Cheney/Rumsfeld/Hussein? Walter O'Malley moving the dodgers to LA and bringing the Giants with him?   Anything to distract from Obama's dismal record.

Nope. Just to draw attention to the fact that Romney's about the business of re-establishing the Dubya era working with Dubya's Architect.  How can we forget the past when Romney keeps enlisting it?


Uh huh.  Hey, I hold the title to a bridge in Brooklyn.  Lookin' to sell.  You can have 75% of the toll rights.  Interested?



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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2012, 08:42:27 pm »
You sound EXACTLY like Al Sharpton.

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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #87 on: September 15, 2012, 11:28:26 pm »
After a couple of days have passed, I am astonished that the ludicrous attack on Romney's statement was seen as anything other than.... ludicrous.  Meanwhile Team O continues to blame the stupid Internet video and they get away with that.  I'm flummoxed.
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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #88 on: September 15, 2012, 11:38:34 pm »
Can't say I'm surprised.

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Re: Official Response to Attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo
« Reply #89 on: September 16, 2012, 12:10:51 am »
Can't say I'm surprised.

At what?  O's ability to shift blame to the stupid Internet video?
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